SwedenMods could you at least make two subcategories for Japan and China? With Japan being displayed by default for obvious reasons I won't mention again.
wrong, whats presented is that nobody owns a physical copy of the game. Is the Ubi Soft version legit or not? the answer is we dont know and that is the problem.
"I want to be right even though I don't run this game" While its true that i dont actively run this game I did run it quite alot before any of the current RE3 runners came to the game and I try it out from time to time. Back then we used a wiki for the leaderboards, most people who ran RE2 also ran RE3 and believe it or not there wasnt one community for each game back then, that started when everything moved to speedruncom.
I do agree that anybody who's never ran the game doesnt have a say in any rule changings or discussions except when it comes to specific discussions that doesnt require you to run the game, like leaderboard layout and such.
another important thing that ive stated many times now is if it turnes out that Ubi Soft is 100% legit then what will happen with all the old and new Japanese runners? Can anybody please answer this?
Japanese runners dont download copyrighed material due to strict law. Mediakite was bought from Japan and then shared so yes it was way way easier to come by (for everybody).
"Are we not the rule makers for this leaderboard?" when you say "we" are you talking about the mods or the RE3 community? I'm guessing you mean the mods cause there was no open discussion when the china version was added in the first place. And no mods are NOT the rule makers for a game, rulemaking comes down to logic and discussions between all of the runners within the community.
EDIT: and the fact that one dude bought it from amazon (especially when it came from japan) means everything
What more evidence is needed? so we have 2 pictures of the Ubisoft version and if they are infact legit theres no way the current iso's people use came straight from that version. Clearly it was modified inbetween like adding trainer, adding unlimited ammo at the start and removal of the guide books.
Did you miss the 2 big posts made by Enetirnel? Now compare that with what we have for the Ubisoft version.
I've been trying to find stuff that would support the Ubisoft version but I havnt found anything that would be worth putting forward. When/If I get a reply from capcom ill post it so Andy can translate it.
Lastly since im not convinced that the ubisoft version is legit that doesnt necessarily mean I'm convinced its a knockoff. There's alot of shady things about the version and if I did claim that its a knockoff then I would require proof like an aswer from capcom for example.
The ones who make a positive claim have the burden of proof, so dont complain to me that you have to provide proof for its legitimacy.
EDIT: I might have mixed up the trainer, ulimited ammo and books with the other version. However we're still stuck with the download only version. Best way to prove its legitimacy is either a answer from capcom or a physical disc that people could share and test.
To the ones who believe or just dont care if this version is legit. Wouldn't you rather have this sorted now with solid evidence so this discussion doesn't come back? you know like you should've done before it got added to the leaderboard without even having a thread about it?
Thank you for doing this Enetirnel. So far this version seems to be far more legit then the current versions people are using. This is the kind of evidence people need in order to atleast start a evaluation.
1 problem or a contradiction that i saw immediately was that the disk says "Capcom Co. LTD 2001-2003, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. yet the title of the game gives you the years 1999-2000.
EDIT: Sorry if i missed anything but when was Ubisoft established as legit? is there any more evidence then the picture that was posted yesterday?
@Roo high demand right now Kappa
So if you can claim WR for JP and WR for CHN then seperation between the versions would be the best.... for now
That EA version would be nice to test out. but it claims to be developed/produced from EA and not Ubisoft like the current China version claims. Except for that version that has the mercenaries intro, you know the one with the REmaster icon in its folder.
And why is the title displayed twice on the manual and disc? Never seen that before.
@wolfdnc ive told you before and you obviously didnt read it. Stop with the SRT argument. Please
If it was banned however, would you then go through every submission to determine that the runner wasnt using unlimited health? Like I always do if SRT isnt displayed,
@wolfdnc, the SRT argument just doesnt work, ban it all you want people will still use it and no one will ever know. Why there wasnt a vote on the forum for the SRT is because the SRT existed before the forum.
@zenix my point was that Japanese runners will most likely stick with the Japanese release and not go with the Chinese version. Would probably be less Japanese runners on this board in the future if the China version is still allowed.
@DudleyC_ The Mediakite version was obtained by a RE3 runner who actually bought the physical disc and then shared it to the other runners. Everybody ran SourceNext before that.
While its true im not a active runner of RE3 I used to run it about 3 years ago and I still care about this game, I focused more on RE2 cause I found it more entertaining.
Even if SRT wasn't allowed there would be no way to tell if the runner actually uses it or not....... What about all of the Japanese runners? Downloading copyrighted material for free is a serious offence in Japan, most japanese runners actually have a hardcopy of the game they run.
I've sent a email to Capcom Asia both in English and mandarin regarding this. Still no response from them. In order to prove that this version is infact legit we need proof from a legitimate source. Positive claims require positive evidence and since most of us if not all don't claim that this version is legit then we don't need any evidence to prove that it's not legit.
To sum it all up it's not legit until proven otherwise.
02:33 120fps allowed.
Let's see how long it takes for it to be banned Kappa
Regardless if there is a logical solution to this there will still be people who are incapable to reason. Therefore voting
I'm wondering, was there ever a physical copy of the chinese version of RE3? and if there was, was it approved by Capcom?
I dont wanna hate but China is well known for their knockoffs OMGScoots
We have now added Subcategories for the game versions. People might get notfications for having their runs rejected/deleted. These runs were either obselete (beaten PB's) or the URL was broken.
We'll go through the the runs again to check for any errors.
as for Console and Emulators we still have the emulators hidden by default. Reason is this: Emulator Hidden: Both Console and Emulator will show 1st place on the runners profiles. Emulator Shown: Emulator will show 1st place and Console will show 2nd place on the runners profiles.
These were the only 2 options and they cant be set for a specific platform, you have to set it to all of them.
EDIT: and we forgot the level leaderboard.........brb EDIT2: We leave 4th Survivor and Ex Battles as it is. Doesnt matter what platform you play 4th Survivor on. Ex Battles only has 1 run on it.
I'm still standing with 1 subcategory, looks much better and I dont want it to look like RE1s Fullgame Leaderboard. If we dont add Any% and Low% then we cant add Normal and Hard.
Having subcategories for the platforms will gain the most for more people.
also there are currently 17 Low% runs on the board and 14 Hard Mode runs (half of the runs are over 2 years old). Point is if a 2nd subcategory would be added then Low% would go first.
