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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@KilleDragon January 11th 12:00 am is in PST time, so if you convert PST to your Spain time zone, you'll figure out what time it'll be for you

For rule #1, what that means is any world record that you achieve during the competition in any one of those leaderboards I have mentioned, is accepted. If you get smb1 any% world record during the competition, then that will give you 1 point, but if you get say Super Mario 64 0 star world record, that will not count. Any category in the list of games I've selected is acceptable, including Anti-Pacifist Warpless which currently has no runs.

For rule #7, (thanks for asking these questions by the way, it really makes me think so I can optimize the rules) if it really only takes less than 10 attempts to get a world record like RoyLT does sometimes, then I think the practice session should also be recorded as well. So basically, if it takes less than 10 attempts to pull off a run, then you should have the practice session as well as the attempt session recorded. I've added that to the rules.

As for if your run is verified by the mods, then yes, that's enough to prove your run is real.

For rule #8, In-game audio is required, and if you have outside of game audio, such as your mic turned on that would be helpful and also more interesting.

inmahujihu

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@Mruns05 So basically, the winner of this competition gets to send me their personal affiliate link to the product I want to buy (it's a kinda simple process that I can help with), and with that product I buy the person who sent me the link to the product, they make 50% of what I spend on that product. a affiliate inmahujihu

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

ok so basically e is a number

I was thinking 2 things, I'm boutta buy this producc, and if I buy it through an affiliate link, the affiliate makes money. The affiliate will be the winner of this competition. I was also thinking, hey, I want the WRs to be better, so what better way to do that than to host a competition for people to clash and bring times down to low levels? I made a google docs, with the rules, and accepted games you can play to get WRs in. Competition starts on January 11th Competition ends on January 25th https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZSMhyMeB448vsjfFhRgfQ_iIErilKabPjWOleH6tQLU/edit?usp=sharing

These are the current competitors. Either say in this forum or message me if you want to join https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hpfxpC5hMNOqtaDYV7qszssQbmaZzCpMBzVXLosDqHQ/edit?usp=sharing

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

I struggled to replicate just the bumps alone and be fast enough, idk how to go quicco with 2 bump TAS 4-2 method So basically, there are 2 methods to get TAS 4-2 framerule There's KingOf_JonnyBoy method, where you do 2 bumps, you have to do the fast accel at the beginning, you have to get perfect bumps (not just in terms of pixels but also speed), perfect pipe entry (not just first pixel but as fast as possible), and then double fast accel, followed by perfect warpzone. That's the current method. If you could figure out some way to go a few frames faster to take out these crazy fast accels, this method would be much more viable.

Then there's the clip method, which HappyLee first showed. I don't think it's much harder than KingOf_JonnyBoy's method, as you have to do multiple frame perfect right presses, right releases, left presses, left releases, and sometimes alternating between right and left and left and right in the span of 1 frame. But you don't have to do any fast accels, and you don't have to do a crazy pipe entry, and you might not even have to do a perfect warpzone

Neither method is very viable right now, and KingOf_JonnyBoy method I don't think has very much room for improvement, but who knows? I would think that the HappyLee method does have room for improvement, as you don't have to do anything ridiculous and you can still save the framerule (other than the ridiculous clip inputs). If someone could find a way to make the clip easier but still fast enough (you know, get rid of all those frame perfect wigglewabblewobblebiggleholybuhjesusinmahujihu's), 4-2 TAS framerule would be much more viable and something people may consider in the future.

inmahujihu

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@Scrimsion This is a significantly easier version of the happylee setup, which was filled with frame perfect right presses and releases and left presses and left releases

Although, the problem I'm finding is that I'm going pretty slow, the fastest I've been able to get out of the before the warpzone is 8-C, and finish the level with 8-H, which is 6 frames slower than the minimum speed needed to save the TAS framerule. Am I missing something? Can you show this same TAS but on the pellsson rom showing you getting the framerule?

Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@Johnny__Mandarino Yes I did, I was inspired by it and that's why I copy pasted wut you said last year it was a very noice post

Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

WR in smb1 Any% 4:57 in smb1 Any% All Stars Super Mario Bros. leaderboard WR sweep sub 4:40 AISSON

Extra: Any WRs in this leaderboard (edit: I realized that getting every single WR in this category is too ambitious, here's why https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvChAHys4MpvYbcs2WEdJlzhV9DWkpHV2IrxnLeqzmA/edit?usp=sharing)

ok inmahujihu

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

What is your 2020 speedrunning goals?

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

Ok, so that means in order for something to count as a kill I have to actually collect the points? i c

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

Ok so I recently got maybe a kinda thicc 6:52 in Anti-Pacifist I think I killed all the enemies, but one I'm not quite sure about So right here, I try to kill the despawning plant, and what happens is I shoot, the fireball is absorbed by the plant, I saw the 200 appear, but I did not collect the 200 points I'm not sure if that still counts as a kill or not So then, my question is for the mods, what counts as a kill?

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@Kosmic Ok in that case the pipe is the best way, since there's almost just as many coins and you only have to spend a little bit of time collecting them. But for no coins, it's really difficult and doesn't save time to take the underground route

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@KilleDragon So basically I was lil triggered because youtubeman06 didn't believe my words so I showed him video and that is me being a lil triggered @Kosmic Wait what do you mean the pipe is faster? I'm confused

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

WUT ok so Wait where was the reaction and why was it delayed? ok so WUT no If we mathematically calculate, you ideally would be on framerule 539 if you played perfecto but you lost 3 framerules entering 8-2, so you were on framerule 542 ok now, replicating the exact mistake you made to die, we reenter 8-2 with 1 less life, and on framerule 610

Then I played through and wat do you know, the plant is despawned i was kinda thinking it would be a different framerule but it's 610 @Darpey So, dying does not affect the same framerule doing different things, 610 without dying still produces gone boi of the plant boi

I remember Maru saying that any framerule can get a perfect bullet shot, it's just that some framerules are harder than others to make that happen

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

(prepare yo ears) Yes I collected a coin, it is just meant to show that the movement is going to cost time over the overground route

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

Press left earlier and you will stop on the pipe earlier I do a full jump and hit the ceiling, and almost right after I hit the ceiling I press left Then when I come to a full stop in something like the middle or slightly to the left of the middle of the pipe, I go down.

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

Well bois It's almost the end of the year (6 or 7 days? until 2020) How have you guys done in completing your goals? If you didn't complete a goal you set out to get, can you explain why? Here's an example for me:

WR in smb1 Any% [not complete] WR in smb1 Any% all stars (god dang do it already dskjaf;fkjdsa) [COMPLETE since October] 4:59 mile in running (This is speedrunning) [not complete]

Extra: 4:42 AISSON [Complete, blown out of the water with 4:40, but because new easy strats were found since October] WR in smb1 Warpless [not even close] Make Minus World (not ending) category absolutely perfect (done) [COMPLETE since January, thankfully before GTAce99 came and got his perfecc time so I'll be at the top for very long time] WR in smb1 Warpless All Stars [no, didn't even do any runs] WR in smb1 Minus World Ending [not complete]

oh yeah and sub 25 in 1-1 as fire so bigeypython subs to me Keepo [uhh, I don't know if he would still sub to me at this point]

Ok so, why I didn't achieve my goals: I didn't get smb1 any% WR for what I would say 2 reasons.

  1. Somewhere around March, I shifted my mindset for the worse, and lost an extreme amount of my dedication that I used to have, which meant that I was grinding significantly less than I should have been. If I still had the dedication, I could have at least got close, but probably not it for the 2nd reason.
  2. In April, I decided to switch from doing blazit to 2 bump 4-2 because I found myself really struggling with blazit but going thicco mode with 2 bump 4-2. It started with my messing up blazit for like a minute straight but then getting 2 bump 4-2 first try. I spent quite a while on grinding 2 bump 4-2 over blazit, maybe a month or so, and then one day I was in Kosmic's chat, and I said something along the lines of "you can get 455 with 2 bump 4-2" somewhere in there, and then Kosmic said "you would quit before you get 455 with 2 bump 4-2" and I said "o ok wen will I quit?" and he said "never... prove me wrong." So I spent something like an additional 6-7 months grinding with 2 bump 4-2 instead of blazit. At the end of it, Kosmic said that he wanted me to stop trying with 2 bump 4-2 and go back to blazit. At first I was hesitant, as I was doing something one way for 7-8 months and now I'm supposed to switch bacc, but later on I kinda accepted that Kosmic is not wanting me to "waste" my time with 2 bump 4-2 and to switch bacc to blazit. So now I'm bacc to blazit.

ok thicc text The reason I didn't get my other goals would just be because of reason #1, since I wasn't as dedicated as I could be I had less time grinding and therefore got less done than I otherwise could have.

inmahujihu How did you guys do?

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@Johnny__Mandarino I don't know of any method that is possible to clip into the 1-1 underground wall and not collect any coins

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

I very much want to do this once I don't have another category extension project going aka after *8-4 any% sub 10:30 and all stars any% 4:57 I will probably go for this also just got 10:31.6 in *8-4 any% PogChamp

Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

ok so, prepare your brains I was recently in repusoiram's stream, and he was going thicco mode in any% no coins (he's very dedicated look at how many attempts he has, watch out youtubeman06 he gon get yo WR) and at one point I was like "hmm is sub 5 possible?" So here's the math Current WR is 5:06.99 The main thing you have to add, is 8-1 walljump. 8-1 walljump can save a whopping 14 framerules over WR (this is an estimate, as when you finish the level with walljump you end with a high 198, while youtubeman06 ends 8-1 with a high 185 but not the top, so 14) 14 framerules is 4.9 seconds, so 5:06.99-4.9 seconds = 5:02.09 holy marcus Ok, now how do we take off another 2.1 seconds (6 framerules)?

Lets start in 8-4 In 8-4, youtubeman06 does the 2 frame setup, so if we do the 1 frame setup instead (backward or forward or whatever, look there are more frames to save in 8-4 so you can just do forward) you can save 1 framerule. That's the end of the "easy" time save. We have 5 more framerules to save.

This is where you go like "ughh I don't like this time save it hard" ok so If you do BBG in 8-2 that can save 2 framerules, bringing us to good ol 5:01.04 Add 4-1 FPG and that saves 1 framerule, and that leaves us with 2 more framerules to save, and a time of 5:00.69 Add 420 bla-- wait u can't Add 2 bum-- no don't Add 8-3 FPG, and that leaves us with 1 more framerule to save, and a time of 5:00.34

At this point, you might be wondering, "why hasn't he mentioned 1-1 FPG yet?" well little child, that is because there is no 1-1 FPG setup that we know of, that can save time, and is RTA viable, or that we would be willing to do. But wait, there's still 1-2g. Also there's another framerule you can save in 8-1. So either you can do some weird 1-1 FPG setup to save the final framerule, decide to do some harder 8-1 walljump setup to save a framerule, or succ it up, do something kinda familiar (maybe) and whip out your 1 frame jump skills and decide to do 1-2g, leaving you with a most beautiful time of 4:59.99!

So that's how to beat any% in under 5 minutes without collecting any coins. Now to summarize what you might add 1-2g 4-1 FPG 8-1 walljump 8-2 BBG 8-3 FPG 1 frame setup in 8-4 inmahujihu

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Lul_ecks_dee5 years ago

@Mruns05 no u c, Pacifist means you just don't kill any enemies. Low% is like you don't kill any enemies, but you also don't collect any coins, but you also have to wait until the timer gets to 000, but you also have to hit the bottom of the flagpole every time, but you also can't break any blocks, but you also can't collect any powerups including 1ups.

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