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New York, USAalkamaass1 year ago

Hey for the GoldenEye 007 Xbox/Switch leaderboard there's an issue where the level leaderboard only shows Xbox One, is there a way to fix it so that either all the subcategories show up on the level leaderboard or for it to be possible to have a level leaderboard for each subcategory? https://www.speedrun.com/goldeneye_007_xbox_and_nso/levels

It's frustrating because it basically mean only one version of the game has a level leaderboard which is really silly, can SRC add functionality to resolve this issue?

New York, USAalkamaass3 years ago

is there going to be a discord server for this made soon?

New York, USAalkamaass6 years ago

Nearly three years ago now, there was ample discussion in this thread: http://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=19147.0 on whether or not Duel PA 0:09, or the Duel level all together should count as a WR or even be on the rankings in the first place. Given how in the past couple of years public opinion has shifted completely on things like Marc's converter or Berube's 53, I think now is a good time to revisit the argument for Duel being or not being on the world rankings.

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Here are some arguments for Duel REMAINING on the rankings:

  • It's always been that way since 2001

  • Some ppl who worked hard for the Duel WRs would feel sad because their records would be removed

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Here are some arguments for Duel BEING REMOVED from the rankings:

  • Duel is unlike other missions in either GE or PD in that it is not unlocked by progressing through the game. It is unlocked by playing a training exercise outside of the missions of the game. This indicates Duel is more of an external training exercise than it is an in game mission.

  • Duel was never ¤intended¤ to be played through as a distinct mission with its own story. It is a bonus stage. Every other level in GE/PD are part of the big story, or their own unique one. Duel is not.

  • There is no cheat unlocked for beating Duel in a fast manner. Every other of the 40 stages in GE/PD do have a cheat unlock. Duel doesn't. If anything, the reason we began speedrunning these games was to unlock the cheats. Duel is unique in that it doesn't have this same quality.

  • Since Duel has hundreds of ties, it no longer serves the ability to effectively rank anyone. A world rankings requires definition and difference between competitors in order to effectively rank its competitors. Since Duel is so full of ties, it is useless in this regard.

  • Removing Duel would give Perfect Dark a 6000 point ceiling, in line with Goldeneye, improving consistency across both games.

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Feel free to discuss your views on either side of the debate. I might update some points in the OP as they are brought up. Also I may add a poll in a few days but not until people have had time to discuss and debate before voting.

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