DenmarkAlso on another note, I saw that someone made a remaster of this map. Maybe we should look into requesting a page for that to be created? I haven't played it yet, so I should probably do that first haha. To see if it's actually meaningfully different.
Here's the link for the remaster: https://www.minecraftmaps.com/48031-the-tourist-remastered
Yea, the idea would be to play the map kind of like how the map was intended to be completed with a few optimizations and shortcuts that do not "violate the spirit of the map". So you could call it a sort of story% run haha.
That's fair enough. Different communities have different opinions regarding this. In the Sekiro speedrun community, we remove runs without video because it is often impossible to beat the record if you can't view and analyze it. And it can be abused, like I could go get a record with a new strat and then delete the run to make it harder for subsequent runners to beat it. (Which is kind of the situation we are in right now, although I doubt that Orchid had any ill intent behind it). Anyway, the Any% time should still be beatable without using the new timesave that they came up with. Just need to grind out a good spawn and then not mess up haha. And Restricted should be pretty beatable too.
Some time ago, OrchidCNR deleted all their youtube videos. The WR for Any% and Restricted are currently held by them, but the videos are gone.
Without video, it is very difficult trying to figure out what time can be saved in order to beat them. I know that the runs have already been verified by a moderator, and so they are obviously legitimate (I also watched them back when they happened) but because there is no footage, it can be hard for people to view them as legitimate WRs.
In my opinion, these should be removed. But obviously there's a conflict of interest in me asking that because it would make me the WR holder again. I already messaged the moderator Noob about it, but I didn't feel like it really got anywhere, so I thought I would make a forum post.
So far All Iron Doors has been a bit of a meme mainly because the rules have been unclear, so here is my take on how we could potentially change it so that it could be a nice run.
I think the original idea behind "all iron doors" was to have a category that did not use any skips. I can't be sure though, but that is the direction I think would be cool for this category. So my idea is that we rename it to Any% No Skips, and the requirements will be the same, every iron door that the map creator intended for you to open to complete the map, need to be opened.
I will compile a concrete list at some point and make a little guide so that there is no confusion about what doors need to be opened. But basically this would make the category be like how the first run that moustachebleue submitted, where every puzzle is completed and nothing is really skipped: https://www.speedrun.com/mcm_tt/runs/yd6312jz
My idea is that small shortcuts would still be allowed, as long as you do not skip over puzzles/iron doors that the map creator intended for you to complete/open. An example of a shortcut like this would be at 2:12 in moustachebleue's run:
Timestamp (2:12)
I think the category should also require you to follow all the map rules like in Any%. So moustachebleue's 22:40 would be inducted as the first world record for this category.
I would like to hear what you guys think about this. Maybe I am going in the complete wrong direction with this, but I think it could be cool. I'm pretty open to create new categories, since I think the shorter categories on this are a little grindy/boring.
Edit: typos.
Yo guys, it's been a while. I just wanted to let you know that I am still here, and have read your posts. I think so far I am not gonna implement the re-timing on the dimensional loading, but I can look at it again in the future if you want me to. Any feedback you wish to give is welcome. I have some time to put aside for this now because things are going pretty smoothly over on Sekiro, which is the other game I moderate.
Atm it doesn't seem like there really would be that many runs to add to a leaderboard like that. Some people in China have run it, mainly Freedom_JS. We usually create leaderboards to track competition so if more people start running it then it could probably get added. If you're curious about what the fastest runs/strategies are, it can always be found on Freedom_JS's bilibili channel.
Downpatching on PC is easy, but downpatching on console is basically not possible because it requires you to have a jailbroken console (google can tell you what "jailbroken console" means). I don't think these scenarios can be compared, the console leaderboards should probably get split since it's theoretically possible that the old WR is unbeatable due to the patch differences, even though the category is really inactive.
PS5 does have a way to store multiple savefiles (on the cloud or on a USB drive? I can't remember), but on PC, you can have thousands of savefiles and we have access to practice tools. The practice/learning experience may be more enjoyable on PC and you also won't be able to disable tutorial pop-ups on console.
In terms of the patches, most runs are optimally performed on current patch (1.06). On PC you may see some people on 1.04, but the difference between 1.04, 1.05 and 1.06 comes down to minor technicalities and they're all considered optimal. Only No Airswim is optimal on old patch (1.02), but the current console WR uses current patch, so it should be no issue. On a side note, it's not possible to downpatch on console, if you wanted to play the old patch, then you would need an original disc copy.
Apart from the opening cinematic, during cutscenes/cinematics the In-Game Timer still ticks.
On PC, the cutscene loading in and fading out has been cut out by the LiveSplit Plugin, however time still runs during the actual cutscene.
In case the Youtube upload is not working, you can watch the run on BiliBili here:
In case the Youtube upload is not working, you can view the run on BiliBili here:
Currently there's no auto-start or auto-split functionality for Mortal Journey, however Inside Edit Splits -> Settings there's a setting for Mortal Journey that makes the timer start from 0, if you manually start the timer during the loadscreen after starting the gauntlet. Sorry, this should have been made more clear in the rules. I'll look into updating the information on the site.
All game modifications are banned for leaderboard submissions.
What third party app do you have in mind?
Hey Simon, I'll try to answer without getting into personal opinion.
It's hard to make individual level runs in a game that is NOT linear. A memory boss will have different approaches depending on the context of the entire speedrun route. For example, Genichiro in Shura Glitchless is fought with 2 Attack Power and 1 Ako, where as in Shura Unrestricted he is fought with 3 Attack Power, Yash and Confetti. Someone would have to decide what exact parameters it would be best to fight the boss within. There's no straightforward answer to that question, so it definitely wouldn't be easy to create them like that.
If you mean fights through reflections of strength, a few people already do those and you can find some times on Youtube by Ongbal and Joe x0f. But it isn't very popular in the grand scheme of things. Less popular than all beads and memories, which was moved to misc, because no one plays it anymore.
That being said it has not been seriously considered, mainly because there's been basically no demand. I remember one other guy on the Discord asking about it. Generally speaking, categories are created to keep track of an already ongoing competition, they are not created in hopes that some people might try it. There shouldn't be anything stopping you from running it though. I play categories that aren't on the leaderboards too, like Shura NG+7 Glitchless.
I hope that clears up why they don't already exist.
I wouldn't completely rule out them potentially getting added in the future, but it doesn't seem like that many people are interested in it. We won't add a category that only a few people would like to run, because on the other end of the spectrum there are people who do not wish for it to be added(last time ILs were discussed those in favour were outnumbered by those against). Maybe there will be support for it in the future.
Hope you have a good day as well
You can find your submissions by clicking the hourglass at the top of the page, next to the searchbar. Then pressing "view all". There you will see your run awaiting verification, if you press it and then press the 3 dots, you can edit the submission info or delete it entirely.
You don't have to do anything though, we'll fix it for you. The item UI thing is such a small issue that I will just verify it for you again (assuming everything else is in order, have not yet gotten to your run on the verification queue). Try to get the layout right next time though.
Feel free to add the video to this submission, or resubmit. Then we will have a look at it.
