I think any% no bogeys is kind of redundant, the fastest run would by definition be done in the fewest shots.

Theres a similar issue with 100%, that essentially becomes just a no powerups(clean ball) run,but if you bogey you are forced to reset.

Honestly i think going the other way could be more interesting, an any% all bogeys run, means you can try and find optimal wasted shots.

I was maybe thinking of doing an all bux run, but havent looked into that for a while.

Maybe for now just add the new categories, and we can always change the layout later!

@_nabbe

Oh damn, didn't realise that would happen

I could possibly go through each run and manually record every bit of info (video url, time of upload etc) so all of them can be easily re-added in the correct category if we wanted to go through with the big reshuffle?

Honestly that sounds good!

I think Fresh File might need a different name, just because the goal isn't clear from the name, maybe "Remove the Blight"? And then clarify in the rules that it's from a fresh file.

I would usually call this kind of run any% as it's playing from a new file up to the credits but that's already taken so x3

We could also fully change the leaderboards, put all the single run categories into ILs and have the full game leaderboard be multi-run categories only? I know that is a fair bit of work but I'd be happy to do that myself if people want a change like that!

Yeah!

I just figured we needed more than just weapon runs and max challenge, like I said all achievements+cosmetics im also looking at but that would take ages x3

Yeah that rule confused me as as well..

I feel like that should only apply for the weapon specific runs

Hey @_nabbe

So the difference would be that Whilst "Fresh File" finishes after the first run, my "Open the gate" would finish after beating a run 5 times, removing all of the blight on the gate and showing the credits ^^

There definitely should be a better name for it, but that's my first thought x3

And thanks for adding the platforms!

Hey all!

I just found this game recently and wanna give speedruns a go, but I was planning on running some longer categories, not just single run ones.

I was first planning on doing an "Open the gate" run, so start from a fresh save and finish after fully opening the gate, if I completed a run could we add it on the leaderboard?

I also then wanna go crazy and do a hundo run, so all achievements and cosmetics unlocked from a fresh save x3

I would also be playing on my Switch, not PC so maybe we could add a column on the board to distinguish?

Thanks ^^

I'm sorry but I am gonna quickly correct your odds.

To clear up, the odds of NOT getting basketball in a single Sports Mix match are 3/4, not 1/4. This is beacuse out of the 4 random options, only 1 is basketball, hence 1/4 to play basketball, and 3/4 to not.

The odds of having a basketball-free whole cup is 1/4 instead. The easy way to explain this is:

Out of the 4 sports, exactly 1 will not be played per cup, and this is random. Therefore the chances of it being Basketball is 1/4.

The maths way is to multiply the odds of no basketball at Round 1, 2 and the final. This is 3/4 x 2/3 x 1/2, which gives 1/4.

For a basketball-free all cups run, simply multiply 1/4 by itself twice, or cube it. This gives odds lower than you said at 1.6%, or a 98.4% chance of it showing up at least once.

So it's actually less likely than you thought, so more pain for runners x3

Rest of the post is great though!

Guess I'll be losing 9 hours of my life for this WR soon

It would probably take about 7.5-8 hours to do, over half of which is just Basketball and Hockey. Could be even longer, as in hard Bball and Hockey the opponent could score lots, wasting plenty of time to animations. I don't see many people willingly attempting this.

I've decided that any% should only involve saving the princess, so completing The Castle and Starry Sky only, since that is the implied end of the game. So I made a new category, All Levels, to fill the gap. This is the same as old any% rules, simply beat all levels in castle, Sky and tower. As a side note, this'll make any% shorter, since no bats need to be collected anymore.

No problem, happy to help :)

I think for now I can erase the advertisement time but if you're planning on running more than once you may want to just buy the no-ads version.

The reason for erasing the file is because for any% you need a certain number of bats and all stars to unlock the entire game, and I dont want to count every bat you get to see if you unlocked the witch tower.

Yep, time doesn't pass before getting on the boat, so no worries about waiting strats.

I'll check in a bit, but I thought time didn't pass until you start the boat moving?

Can we start timing runs from first input rather than new game? The opening load times can vary up to 2 seconds longer randomly for me, plus it means console doesnt lose 8 seconds from just the opening load time.

Since the update has changed some of the levels, I have added a variable to say which version you are playing.

I think it's mostly because the run would be boring to optimise and watch, so there's little interest in competing for it, although there have been a lot of questions about this so they may be considering adding it but I wouldn't know. I'm not against it but I definitely wouldn't run it.

This was pretty cool to watch! Even if this game isn't as active as it could be, you can keep making more of these, and maybe even start speedruns to challenge the current WR times. I would definitely start running again if there was more competition.