Forums  /  Gradius  /  Potential New Skip
  AuroraxPhilicAuroraxPhilic

I accidentally found a way skip more then half of a level; and with it, I've created an all new route that can save up to 1 minute, and 50 seconds. All I need is verification if it is allowed. My question: What specific conditions must be met, in order for a level to be considered "Completed"?

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  AuroraxPhilicAuroraxPhilic

Here's video proof. This was my first counter with it. This can be done with every skip in the game. Is this allowed in a run..? Because I don't wanna make a run that gets denied; based on something that mods may have known about already.

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  Toad22484Toad22484

Hello! Let me apologize for not seeing this sooner. This trick would definitely be doable. Death abuse to skip a major portion of the stage is very interesting. You’d have to kill 10 moai heads after to actually save time but yeah that’s really neat. Great find!

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  Toad22484Toad22484

I’d also note that much like Journey to Silius this seems to be a checkpoint manipulation and not a wrong warp. I’m really curious to see how low the time can go!

Edit: Do you have an explanation on how you get this to work? Is there a set up or are you just dying at the end of the warp?

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  xenkaroshixenkaroshi

I'm just coming off from running silius and metal storm with deathwarps - now gradius get them too 😃

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  AuroraxPhilicAuroraxPhilic

Toad it's me m8. Guess you never noticed me in chat. ;( I'm from the Metroid community. Anyway...my best guess is that the entire level is loaded in that fast scroll, and dying in a very specific place tricks the game into thinking you are in that part of the level. I have found the most optimal way to do this...I might release a video on this soon.

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  Toad22484Toad22484

Oh? I might have missed it. I didn't even realize this response happened. I have so many submissions come in I miss a lot of these discussions. I would love to see a vid of your huge time saves! I've been waiting to see the record broken!

 
  RottDawgRottDawg

I tried this skip out, seems like all you need to do is crash into the 18th Moai during a warp, the problem is, I was getting warped backwards, I'm guessing there is another trick to it?

 
  RottDawgRottDawg

Also I have no problem with this being used in an Any% run

 
  xenkaroshixenkaroshi

I mean ofc its not a problem allowing for deathwarp being used in any%. The larger question down the road is whether or not to have a warpless category for the other runners in the past so that not everyone steamrolls them over. My two cents.

 
  AuroraxPhilicAuroraxPhilic

This trick is useless in Any% I was more so referring to all stage.