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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

It's particularly strange since the top run uses the "emulator" variable and isn't hidden. I imagine it's an oversight.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Yeah, the reasoning behind it is that allowing stages to be completed in any order means losing less time to character selection in scenarios where it would be valuable to switch characters. I'm not sure how often that will be but it's for future-proofing. So basing the timer-stop on something every stage has in common creates parity.

Guess I need to try Super Bass, I've only played up through chapter 14 at this point so I haven't unlocked him. I have a list of all the characters with movement-increasing abilities, though.

United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Mod note: Retimed to 7:28.900. Time ends on first frame of stage clear popup.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

I can get behind that re: the ILs.

I think Jakob Elevator or whatever it's called can probably also be an NG+ category where it's just "do the whole thing" but also I wonder if anyone will actually run it. At that point I like to err on the side of "I will add it as soon as someone does a run of it," the assumption being that they will do the whole thing in one go on one of the three difficulties. Probably easier to leave it out for now until someone shows specific interest in running it, at which point it can be revisited.

If we are to add individual story levels, it would probably also make sense to add events. Four of those have assignable levels, but I'm under the impression that you can just set those to whatever, I don't think there's much sense in setting them to highest since they're by far the easiest events.

It's going to take me a while to add all the levels not because of the number but because only some ILs are separate for story/challenge and that's technically a subcategory. So expect that within a couple days.

United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

I will add a note to the rules suggesting that turning music off is ideal because of this.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

And I do not care about moderating for this game. I said before - I only asked for it because I always do when I ask for changes, to reduce the work of making those changes. I just want the way the board is set up to be sensible for runners.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Rule #1 of leaderboard moderation:

Rule #5 of leaderboard moderation:

Rule #1 is a rule clarifying that the community makes decisions about what categories should be. Moderators are supposed to support the community wishes. That is why they exist.

https://www.speedrun.com/support/learn/moderation-rules

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

You think it makes sense to have 58000 subcategories? Really? It makes sense to you that if there's maybe 100 runs on this board someday, it should be almost impossible for anyone to find anything but the 5 newest?

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

I think that might be getting lost in translation. "This leaderboard organization is hilarious" = he is saying it is a joke the way the leaderboard is organized.

Either way, if you can't understand that it's silly to have 58000 subcategories (which the board has right now) then I don't know what to tell you.

130 characters
28 stages/phases
2 (max lv/not max lv)
2 (normal/challenge)
2 (any% / glitchless)
130 * 28 * 2 * 2 * 2 = 58240
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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

What is this then?

Anyway, I'm saying that even having them split by character is silly. It's still 29000 boards already. I think you should take out the character subcategory and just make it an annotation. Nighlin seems to be arguing the same thing. The guy who commented yesterday also said having character split made no sense.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Don't split the board by weapons, that's ridiculous. It's already too much split by character. You have three people telling you it's too much if you count the guy from the other thread (ThatOneEnder). You are the only one who wants to split it like this but it doesn't make any sense.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Sure, but I don't understand why that isn't just assumed. There is no need to separate the board by character. There are ~130 of them. It's just silly. It makes way too many boards which makes the leaderboard hard to navigate.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

The other reason the character subcategory split doesn't make sense is because it's possible to switch characters between missions, and there are many cases where this would be faster. Even in shorter categories like just one chapter - Gaea Armor X and Shadow Armor X would be fastest on some maps in chapter 14 for example. Preventing this with character subcategories is just taking a mechanic out of the game for no reason.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

The board is already very cluttered because of the character split which I still think is not needed. And you equip two weapons, not one, so that doesn't make sense to make subcategories for.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Also, level doesn't affect Challenge mode, only Normal mode, so why would there be a level cap for that?

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

What is the reason for having the level cap in the first place? There were no reasons in the rules. All weapons get all their skills by level 80 and level doesn't affect challenge mode so it doesn't seem to make sense.

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Why make a player and weapon level cap? Some players might have save data beyond the one you've set because the one for the game is higher. Weapons can be reset, but the max player level is 200 and there is no way to lower it. Skills cap at 48. Players who have already progressed past these nonsense limits you set would have to restart their files to run NG+ categories and do all the grinding again from the beginning.

Source: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2183650/discussions/0/3821922030312804513/

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United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Ah, I hadn't gone back to check. Neat. Thanks.

United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

Understood. I had wondered if there was a translator involved. Unfortunate that it not being so good seems to make this conversation difficult but I think this is the last thing I have to say.

I don't need moderator and can live without it. Usually I just ask for it when I ask for lots of changes because I like to make it easier on whoever is already moderating. If that is not of interest to you that's fine.

I do think having individual chapters would make the game easier to run and maybe bring more speedrunners to the game as a result. Up to you.

United StatesArt_Izon1 year ago

What specifically are you asking me to explain? I'm having trouble understanding that sentence. Are you asking me to explain what my disability entails?

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