Pennsylvania, USAIf the leaderboard doesn't even hold the fastest known time then it's a shit leaderboard, who would even want to have a faux "WR?"
Afaik, there's nothing on this site that states the 1st place run is even WR. I may be misunderstanding, but it's not the sites fault that there's idiots out there claiming shit times as WR, that's absolutely an off site problem.
If there's times missing, pester the mods to submit those times.
What are the differences between the original version and the sega ages, I heard lower encounter rate as one?
Maybe we need a moderation dispute system as well
Like title suggests, instead of a thread why not make a single thread with 1 locked post. Post would include what's on page 1 of the Leaderboard moderation request thread with a submission form since no one nowadays seems to read or care about it since most just go to the final page to submit a request.
I just think it'd be more efficient maybe? Just have a form, and make it so that a mandatory field is "Did you contact any / all moderators? If so how long ago."
Figure it'd help save people from replying with the same post different day and would maybe be more organized on the site mods end since it is possible to miss a thread request.
Just my 2 cents, not that I think the current thread is unnecessary, just that no one seems to really know that the first post in that thread states everything that's been repeated constantly
Is the 4x buff permanent, or can it be toggled like in Phantasy Star Complete Collection?
The only thing that I'm going to say here is that I do think it's dangerous that any legitimate player can suddenly be taken off a leaderboard for a reason completely unrelated to speedrunning. In addition, if the leaderboard for goldeneye on this website isn't being properly maintained, the only reasonable thing that should be done is nuke the boards (like mega man games did) and link to the website, at least the IL portion should.
So like I didn't read half this shit but is the tl;dr that the Mortal Kombat mods put better proof standards to make the leaderboard more reputable?
If this is a case of moderators abusing their position on this site, then this is an appropriate thread imo
You can be the biggest scumbag in the world, but if your runs are legitimate then they earn a spot on a leaderboard
Any update on this? Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity does sum of IGT from each race, why not this game? Would make each version competitive (even though PC still owns when it comes to the control stick parts)
OK I guess I'll quote this time to make what I said clear
Quote from Komrade: This is why I take the trust aspect so seriously when we start talking about top times, but a 20 minute run of an 11.5 minute game? I'm not going to sweat if they get past me.
As a moderator you should take it very seriously if any fake run gets passed you, even if you tried your hardest. Yes I understand you just meant the trust aspect, all I am saying is there is a mentality that the only runs worth taking seriously is the top times. Top runners only make up a small % of the community, if all the up and coming speedrunners start seeing fake runs ahead of them it will cause issues with trust in the community and their moderators.
Cheated runs will get passed off, and some will get verified, that's the main point I was making with OP. We can do our best right now to ensure things don't get passed off, but people will find a way if they're diligent enough. That's why even though it sucks a cheated run may show up on a leaderboard, at the very least its in a public setting where anyone can scrutinize it and report it.
To finalize what I have to say, there is no defending not caring about cheated runs that get passed.
It's very hard to watermark someone's run as anyone can go through any effort to take the run, I remember an incident where one of SVA's older all dungeons TP run got passed off in a race (not even his current pb, and older pb mind you). The community lives with trust and also dies by trust, don't sweat it too much just do the best you can. Eventually these scumbags will get caught.
Also i don't know how to quote but a small thing I do take seriously is the aspect that apparently only top times should matter. I called out a last place time several years ago because the person stated they never finished the run and guestimated it's end time, I don't care if you think it's not doing harm but if you put a time on a leaderboard and it's not real, it should not be on there period. Only caring about top times is a trash mentality, but sadly these are the only times that we know pass heavy scrutiny, with lower times having less care put into how they get verified.
In case I didn't make it clear, to answer OP's question, there is next to nothing you as a verifier can do, the onus is entirely on who's submitting. Take careful consideration if it's a brand new account cause most of the time this is a red flag, in addition look into the gameplay through audacity to see if it was spliced at any point in the video, even before the run begins
Anyone know the capture formula? Can't find any info whatsoever about it other than we know less minion health and higher capture level lead to higher catch probabilities
It's not that it's a bad idea, but speedrunning is vastly different even between games of the same series. It's not reasonable to find someone at a high level on many highly competitive games, and if it is the case it's only a rare few people. If it weren't for the terrible amount of flash / rom hacks / visual novels this wouldn't be a bad idea, but then you have to factor in each game could have IL's or category disputes on what's considered a main category (since sub category would be even harder to want to give point value too).
That being said, I do think that a grouping system would need in place to make this real. Like at the very top, you'd have games that carry the most weight (maybe a group of the top 50 most ran games?), followed by another group of a set weight, then another, then finally the bottom tier (ran by like 1 or 2 people). However many groups is required would take time to decided but this is just an example of tier listing by weight. Obviously no shitty games like flash / visual novels / rom hacks would be included in this ranking, nor would misc. categories to keep everything simpler.
I think the above is a very real possibility, it's better than the trueskill alternative, but yeah the only downside is of course, you'd need to run games you may not like just to get a higher score, and it could also in theory dissuade people from running lower scoring games.
I guess in conclusion, this kind of idea would be neat to see, but in reality I can only see this being done on a game series basis (like all zelda combined / all mario / etc.)
Been thinking a bit and atm the IL leaderboard heavily favors N64 even though we separate our full game's by platform as well. PC and PS1 have the same mechanics I believe, N64 is the dominating version, but I know next to nothing about the dreamcast version to know if it should be different (edit: apparently cutscenes arent' skippable)
So tl;dr can we have subcategories for the IL leaderboard as well to accomidate this? I think we have a decent split on how people run that game that more IL activity would be beneficial to those who don't want to be uncompetitive due to n64 just owning due to cutscene skips....plus it'd be more fun to not have to switch off what platform runners are more comfortable with to get on the IL board
