@SioN the random game URL is more for fun, its pretty useless if you are looking for anything specific, such as a racing game.
@PullMatrox yep, this is another big issue as well. That's why I've given up on searching for anything other than "latest added". Its also a bug for the most runs filter, where seterra should be #1, but its run count on the game page is greatly reduced.
@RENI I do the exact same thing as well, I've untagged all the mobile games I mod because its unfair for all these other games to get away with not using the unofficial tag
@Kkntucara I think something like this is what could bring these long lost leaderboards back from the dead, and, more importantly, give new users an easier time finding their first speed game
@dha I like the idea of stacking filters on top of each other to have the best results displayed on the site.
@zir0nic In my original post, I said that the old genre system should be discarded. This is because the mods of the game manually type in the game genre, so any misspellings would hurt the searchability of the game (example: fps and first-person shooter)
Hey everyone,
So recently as many of you have noticed, there has been an increase in accepted game requests over the last few months, through the support hub and series mods. This is really great for the future of speedrunning with these growing communities, but there need to be a change to the site to allow for these games to exist and have activity. I'm making this post to propose my idea of genre tags/filters being reimplemented into the site, as well as the current state of the unofficial tag (and why it should be modified).
There are over 26k leaderboards on the site now, and the only real way to discover games current is:
a ) The most active/runs page b ) The latest added games page c ) A friend or community member suggests a game
There are two big flaws with 2 of the 3 methods of discovering games that I mentioned. The most active games page tends to stay stagnant, which leaves many platforms and genres unnoticed to new users on the site. The latest added games page used to be useful, until the recent influx of accepted games. Now, a game is in the first page for no longer than a week before it's bumped off the page.
Here is my solution. Create a series of set and defined genre tags, similar to the platform tag, and allow these to be co-filters with platform tags. To be more specific, sub-genre tags may be a useful implementation as well. Here is an example.
Let's say a user is looking for a mobile racing game. Under the games page, they would first change the sort to android, followed by setting the genre to racing, and let's say, the user sets the sub-genre to "rally". This will give the user the exact results they are looking for, instead of sifting through game pages for hours.
Making sure there are set genres and sub-genres will be key, instead of user submitted text fields like was used in the past, and just like platforms, sub-genres could be requested through the support hub. It would also be highly advised for every game submission in the future to require genre and sub-genre tags, just like the platform tags.
This is a big problem with game discoverability as of now. Games that should be receiving this tag (roblox games, custom content, fan games) are not, and this is either due to series mods abusing the system for their games to be more accessible, or the user submitting the games are not checking the correct filter, for the same reason as stated above. There need to be stricter enforcement of what games receive this tag. On the other side, mobile and web games should be removed from the unofficial tag list, as these should really be reserved for low quality/low effort games (such as scratch), not a universal standard for every mobile and web game (and DLC content, but this is a case by case issue). Why does this matter? Games, such as roblox which have hundreds of games in their series, flood the android, PC, and other such platforms list, making it impossible to find true mobile and pc games.
Tl;dr there needs to be stricter enforcement of these tags from series mods, and site mods should also begin to look into this aspect more extensively.
I'm posting this thread to hear everyone's thoughts before making a support hub suggestion, so I'm curious what you all think of this idea, and its possible benefits to the future of searching games on SRC.
-VyPr
Edit: I hate Markdown
Really, ILs are what made this game fun. The original split between resets and conserved momentum was a poor decision, and removing the conserved momentum category was the only necessary step to improve this board IMO. This game really lacks the fun factor without ILS since the small skips, tricks, and strats are what made this game enjoyable. I really hope this board gets restored, otherwise I have no intention to play this game again.
Some individuals don't have access to certain social media platforms, such as YouTube being blocked in some regions of the world, so it allows for alternatives.
There isn't a game forum @wrap , the game doesn't exist on SRC
@EJQuik89 in the process of setting up a board, you don't want to base it around the "what-ifs". Since there isn't really any known glitches as of now, it's a safe bet to not have a glitchless category. As tricks and glitches are found, a split may be made in the future.
In regards of finding glitches, you want to have very good game knowledge on the physics of the game, and then just start messing around with whatever comes to your head. You can also find glitches and tricks by just playing the game, but this is a lot less common.
Most of my resolution's are health-based, as over the past 7 months, this has been my main interest outside of work and school.
Health goals:
- Hit a sub 5:30 running mile
- Get to 12% body fat by June
- Hit a 315 lbs (142.88 kg) bench press and 450 lbs (204.11 kg) squat
- Consistently be able to bike 30 miles
- Hold breath underwater for 4 1/2 mins (I'm at 3:15 rn)
Speedrunning goals:
- Focus more on the quality of my runs and achieve wrs in bigger name games. I want to get the Quake 2 wr
- Try to dominate as many racing game leaderboards as possible
- Expand my horizon a bit and play more genres of games, including the retro game scene
To add on to pear, choose a game you enjoy, but don't necessarily choose a game you plan on playing casually soon in the future. Speedrunning often takes out the mystery in games, for example in the fps genre, in speedruns you will learn enemy spawns, easy enemy kills, possible combat area skips, etc. This is extremely true for the puzzle game genre, where after learning the speed run, its pretty much impossible to play casually again. Some genres are immune to this, such as simulation racing genres, and tycoon style games.
Tl;dr choose a game you enjoy but don't choose your favorite game, unless its something like mirrors edge, which is designed to speed run.
Luckily there's pretty convenient ways to download from most platforms already @have .What would be more beneficial IMO is to figure out a way to retime runs from bilibili and vimeo w/o downloading the vod. This is the main reason why I switched to this retimer https://speedrun-timer.itsmeme11.repl.co/ , because you can actually retime twitch runs here.