Rio de Janeiro, BrazilRegarding Glitchless category, there had a talk about it when the Magic Overflow was starting to be implemented on the runs. Back then, I thought that separating the leaderboards into glitched/glitchless would be more confusing, regarding that it would be a new subcategory + the fact that it had few runners that ran the game previously. The glitch itself is only worth on Normal/Hard, as Easy giving more timeloss than a gain.
However, since last year there are a lot of new runners coming to this game, with (now) more glitchless runners than glitched on Tyris-Normal. I'm rethinking about this topic to see what's the best option for it.
I'm gonna have a talk with other active runners/mods to see their own opinions and, hearing their feedbacks, I shall make the changes regarding glitched/glitchless runs.
Damn, that really looks like something that could've make a difference! I can see that it may be a slight improvement if you throw the thief out of screen, since we can't hit it on it's first movement.
Is it wise to apply the same thing we do on Arcade Mode to the Original? I mean, the Original Mode you have to buy parts for the bike and mechanics, so you would need to stop by and renew your stuff.
It's something that should be tested before anything, I think.
Adding some more stuffs regarding this subject. I've decided to test my new input display with the previous save/rom that was used for that championship. I've noticed as well that he never tried the grass glitch on the end of the track (something that he said he did on this thread, which wasn't suppose to be open for replies, so that's why it was deleted).
The video can be seen here:
It wasn't clear about the points that I've said where his run is under suspicion. It wasn't on the end of the track, but on most of the turns of the track.
Comparison 1
Shime (w/Input Display): Yasputin:
Comparison 2:
Shime (w/Input Display): Yasputin:
Until more informations, this thread will be done.
Hello, everyone!
Recently, there was an issue regarding a rejected submission of an user named "KYasputin", and it wasn't specified why. It took a few days, but I'll explain the whole deal.
KYasputin is the owner of the SMGP brazilian community, a group that it's active for more than 15 years, and still have a lot of new players and even runners (such as TA Marcos and peixemacaco). They've been organizing championships, challenges and even romhacks of both SMGP and ASSMGP 2.
But, the community itself has some controversity, and that's what KYasputin comes in.
Back in 2020, I was in charge of organizing a championship to celebrate SMGP's 30th anniversary. The way we do the championship there is by having a prepared savestate for the specific round, with the car we're gonna use, and people do a IGT time attack with their own developed strategies (which could be used for speedrunning, but it's quite hard to replicate perfectly all of them.)
The rules are clear: No cheating, splicing or something to forge your attempt. For that championship, it was sorted which cars would be used for each round, and for the first round (Brazil), the car chosen was Bestowal.
Yasputin did his attempt and uploaded it on Facebook, a 3'19''60. It was a impressive time and a top time for the record. This is the video:
However, there's something really wrong in his video. When he turns his car on certain sharp turns, the car doesn't lose speed at all- instead, it still gain speed. It's more noticeable on turn 2, which is a long turn.
Naturally, each sharp turn you take makes you lose speed, even on a Bestowal, which has the best stats in the case, despite it's low transmission. There was something completely wrong in his submission. Plus, Yasputin had a suspicious past of manipulating and teaming up with some other players to get advantage on the 2017 Championship, which he organized himself.
People suspected, as I did, and his run and participation were suspended to figure out what exactly happened. Searching for some more proof, and we know that some years ago, he tested some cheats on the game (). But the problem is that we couldn't figure it out what exactly he did, since the Game Genie codes doesn't match.
However, as I took him off the championship, he tried to dictate over the championship, and I've not only dropped the championship, but left the community as well.
Almost a year passed, and I've rejected his run because he's still suspicious about his runs on that championship. I've talked with Emperor about the whole situation and he agreed as well, although we still can't figure it out what exactly he did.
Due to that, he did a post on the brazilian community, which he confessed that he used cheats on a previous ASSMGP championship, growing more suspicious that he could use it as well last year.
Proofs are here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/496902197014471/permalink/4125013234203331/ https://imgur.com/a/KKiAyON
Translation: All my obtained results on the 2019 ASSMGP will be also nullified... Due to use the championship for cheat testing that time.
So, as a conclusion, until he proves that he didn't cheat on that video, all of his submissions will be rejected for the time.
Cheating will be never accepted on this community, nor we will accept cheaters. We always want to have a fair competition inside the leaderboard and improve what this game has to offer. People are still making a lot of efforts such as romhacks and patches, as well as finding new strategies.
Hope you all have a good time and keep practicing!
Don't need to apologize buddy, actually congratz on all the times you did and for the WR on each category, specially Career Mode No Glitch! Was a crazy run with a good strat and rng, you deserve it!
Enjoying this thread, wouldn't be better if we change the category to just Easy/Normal/Hard?
I think the "Any%" on the category doesn't sums to the game itself.
I agree with all of what is said. Frame Counter and Input Display should be recommended and specify where are you playing makes it even clearer.
About the Soft/Hard Reset, just a doubt, the recording must start when we press the reset button (in case in a previous attempt go wrong) or when the SEGA logo shows up?
So, how does exactly Wigwam fight works? Is it completely RNG? What do I need to pass through this boss the quickest way?
I am losing a lot of time on this fight, specifically.
Oh yeah, that happened with me before I realized how the Knockdowns RNG works. But it's pretty hard to happen and when it did, it was only on the second fight.
But yeah, that is weird when it happens =/
Discord link is invalid, I wanted to enter but I can't D:
So, heya everyone, Shime here!
Been grinding the game for a couple of days and since I started, I noticed some stuffs around the game that needs to be shared for the ones who want to know more about the runs.
So, in general, GA II works exactly as the first game- Every spawn is default and they avoid the down stab attack if you press too early, although here we use more the mounts than the first game.
Yet, Tyris is the best/quickest character in the game, due to her magic making the boss fights more easier. It's the best character to start speedrunning it.
Gilius is still fun and he has the quickest first stage overall, since he can due 2 tackles with the mount + a level 3 magic to kill the giant faster (going around 1 sec. faster than Tyris, who can't use magic to preserve to second stage, and 0.5 faster than Ax, who has a lower level 3 magic, but can use it against the first boss.) and makes the RNG on the first camp a lot quicker, together with Ax (making it 3/4 seconds faster overall)
Although Ax uses the same strats as Gilius, he also has the same problems on the first game (for ex. not reaching the end of the screen with his dash attack), which makes him the hardest character to deal with, still he's faster than Gilius because stage 2 forwards his magic outstands Gilius'.
About the glitches, Raffmonster reported about making the black skeletons on stg 4 clipping through the wall and instantly dying as if it falls into a pit. That probably happens when you press the enemy too deep in the wall that it ends entering there and going all way down (I could do that on the black enemy on the third stage, near the stair).
There's a skip you can do in almost every stage start. Basically you skip the character's walk until where you're able to control it on every stage transition (except the first one). It needs to be studied, but that can save a couple of seconds if made it perfect.
That's it, that's some notes I had while grinding this game, hope you have fun!
Hey, Shime here.
So, a good idea for the championship is creating a Discord SMGP server so everyone can join it. I think some people here (like Emperor and Tenebrae) doesn't use FB + it's more simple to organize the tournaments there, with everyone, instead of trying one on FB.
What's your thoughts about it?
I think you should request as an Amiga game, since there's quite some differences between the Amiga port and the Arcade version.
Still it belongs to the Golden Axe series
I guess this version differs a lot from Sega CD/Genesis version, and looks more like the Arcade version. I think the right decision to do is creating a src just for this version of the game.
Nonetheless, GG for the run!
Hey everyone, Shime here!
So, recently I got back for PB attempts on Gargoyles and then something about the Spike Skip on stage 1 (after the cauldron guys) bothered me a lot. At first I thought it was RNG but I found out why when you jump into the spike, it dragged you inside the spikes, rather than getting out of them.
It turns out it has something to do with Goliath's body hitbox when you take damage. I made two different attempts, one taking the damage near the cauldron without getting knocked back or stuck in the wall (which happens sometimes if you miss the dash into the cauldron), and one getting knocked back. And turns out I was correct.
This new discovery erases the previous strat, which you jumped into the wall and tried to jump through the spike to get up, and can save quite some time (around 3/4 seconds, I don't know how precise I am yet) if you don't get screwed with the prisoner next.
Here's the video:
SS without knockback/wall stuck:
SS with knockback/wall stuck:
The same thing can happen on the big climb before the first boss fight. But it's weird since his body hitbox isn't the same with all the spikes (as Tox mentioned days ago when I talked to him).
Anyway, I hope that can help you all, GL on the tries! \o
You can use all your credits, since there isn't a 1cc category for this game. Same goes for the Life Meter.
Heya everyone, I'm shimegabriel and I came here to announce that there's an official discord server for Golden Axe speedruns, uniting every Golden Axe games that exists. If you want to come up, here's the link: https://discord.gg/rYMECdM
