Ok, I must apologize, this trick seems to not work properly. It worked once, and then no possibility to make it work again, I need to do the race again. So, never mind.

btw I did 2:38 today and I think it's possible to drive sub 2:30 on Xbox. But I need good RNG, and it's not the case atm, I got caught 6 times in Silverton...

He did, I saw a few parts already.

I wouldn't have told this trick if it's not worth it. :) But now that you say this, I've got some doubts about this ^^

I'll try to do more RTA runs on 360 in the next few days, but right now I'm on MostWanted, I've started a segmented too.

I've run Carbon these last few days a bit, and now I can easily say that loading times are really slow on X360. A good PC with a SSD can easily gain 10-12 minutes. I drove 2:41, but I can gain 1.30 min in Kenji's territory, and I've been trolled hard with the cops in Silverton. On 360, I think that the best we can get should be around 2:35 with a perfect RNG...

Oh and by the way I found a trick to gain time if cops chase you after a race. Once you finished, you restart the race, and then leave for free roam after the countdown is done. It's obviously faster than being caught intentionnally, and faster than evading.

There has been multiple crashes for this game with DirectX problems. Maybe it is a cause?

I like these simplified NG rules Kappa ^^ Way easier to understand now.

I finished my routing, now I'll run, that's a common sense ^^ I just wait for JessicaSix's run to gather more info, and I also need a new disc cause mine is nearly broken.

I run on Xbox 360, with the latest patch, and it works for me. So I don't think this will depend of the version. I think it is totally possible with only one save, but the problem is that we need to have the races needed unlocked in free race mode, and the only way to unlock them is to progress in career.

My game is broken right now and I won't have any new disc till the end of next week, so I'll have plenty of time for watching this run ^^

What's the RTA time?

Ok, thanks. I'll try some runs as soon as I have my new MW disc.

I personnally think that RTA is still better even the problems we have with it for two reasons. First, we don't have a real IGT at the end of the game. Second, IGT don't count the time spend during inventory. Just this second factor makes the thing bad. The best thing to do would be to cumulate chapter IGTs + time inventory periods, but that would be too difficult, so we have to stick with RTA, unfortunately.

So? Is it allowed or not? Any news?

We have the disc version of the game, but we installed it on the Hard Drive.

I remind that we already did 1:50:06 RTA/1:27:xx IGT, but didn't rendered it.

Did you have any deaths in your run? Cause we had one in 4-2 so it plays a bit. And I don't know if it changes IGT a lot, but maybe the fact you were in LAN gave you faster times.

We should try amateur, but last time we tried, it demotivated us completely.

So that's a shame if it really is the case.

You don't need a finished game (for a run yes tho), you just need that the track you want to drive is unlocked in free race. So maybe it only works on console then....

Quickly made a video for this glitch, I drove really bad in it, but whatever.

I mean : that maybe we can keep the NG any% category in which it's possible to use glitches, and NG Glitchless in which you just play without any external glitch, like the one I found.

OK, I'll try do it in the next few days.

And by the way, wouldn't it be better to do like NG as we know it, and NG glitchless? I think it's more appropriate.

Yeah so that implies that we have to create NG+ category. I hope that there will be some people motivated in doing this.

If you need more explanations on the glitch, I can do a little video to show you how it's like.

In detail : You drive, for example, a circuit (whatever which one) in free race with a career we'll call '1', for one lap. You win it, it's ok.

If you then go to your career you drive during your speedrun, which we'll call it '2', if you drive this track, whatever the number of laps which is showed on the HUD, you'll finish the race in one lap if you're leading.

SO that means this is a pre-run work, before creating any new save for the speedrun. BUT, I have to control if every circuit and knockouts are possible like this, if saving is cancelling it... I'm gonna do a run probably tomorrow with this to see how it works.

But to do this you need that your '1' career is finished, at least you must have defeated Razor. Then once you did all you wanted in one lap you start a new career.

So my question is : can we do it BEFORE we start the timer?

And by the way, as I'm quite new to speedrunning, what means IL?

Edit : By the way, I'm not on PC, I'm on X360.

@Ewil, could you check MW forums when you have time?

I found a glitch which I explained a bit, and I'd like to know if it's possible to use it as NG or will it be an obligation to create NG+.

And @Grim, if you have time, yes it would be great to make a guide for this run.