Växjö, SwedenI really dislike when people start calling stuff something else besides 100%. The "All Medals Expert Mode" discussion for SF64 bugged me af.
Make it clear that the in game counter isn't used and call it 100%. About the definition, I don't know what half of those things are so I'll leave that to you.
EDIT: Also, it is better to have "too much" to begin with rather than exclude stuff that will be brought back later. If something disappears from the definition a year from now due to it being stupid no runs up until that point will be invalid. If we start counting new shit into the definition, all runs up until that point will be invalid. It isn't a stupid idea to just get a definition, run the category, and then discuss it more as we do.
This discussion has a bad habit of dying out all the time.
In my opinion you should go with collecting everything that is counted as an item in you inventory that the game offers you and doesn't respawn. Including or excluding stuff because "it is not fun" seems weird. If I would be the only runner for this game and had to come up with a 100% category I would ask myself two questions.
- Is it a permanent flag? If no, exclude it, if yes, move on to:
- Is it an item/something in your inventory? If yes, include it, if no, exclude it. That would take away anything like blowing up rocks (which can also be permanent flags) and get rid of the "well is this a good item to collect" discussion.
The run might get long and full of detours but come on guys, it is 100%, it is supposed to be like that.
Grouping our rooms together is a plus, but the argument that we can not have a go-to-representative because it would group us all together and being punished as such in case of misbehavior, I do not buy. Because last year we didn't have one, and last year we were all punished as a group. ;) Although good that you have discussed the notes.
Whatever, really. I got my voice out but I admit I should drop my arguments here. I feel like my opinion isn't met by others as I would wish so I guess we should just go with your already set way this year and then we'll wait and see how it all turns out. As long as you are open for discussions next year in case it's necessary.
Of course, but my entire post is about having open discussions with them before and during the event, nothing else. Last year the staff were uneven in their communication and their agreements. If you read my post, I say that I don't mean we should be allowed to make noises and act badly, all I want is an open communication.
Two big problems last year were the agreements being trashed by the staff at shift change (without complaints from others, just because they didn't know the previous agreements) and the definition of "being loud" (generally by the same staff members). And the "being loud" part could be fixed by grouping us together (which is why that was a suggestion).
All I want is someone who can talk for both parties. I already told Edenal that I could put this on myself if you don't think it is important, because trust me, it is important for anyone staying at the hotel. But then it would need to be official so both the staff and the guests know who to talk to. This person should obviously stay at the hotel during the event and take responsibility over the agreements. It isn't fun, but it is needed. Because, I say it again, too many cooks spoil the broth.
Mass housing is only available during the final weekend? Or is it I typo (I kinda know it is, but still)?
Also, I still want to have a response on my post in the main thread.
I honestly think the submissions should be stretched a bit after the release of the Switch to see how a run of Breath of the Wild would fit in. The game would certainly drag attention for the event. I know, I know, "is it really worth it for one single game?"... Yes, imo it is, due to how interesting the game most likely would be at a speedrun marathon for a huge group of the viewers. --- or, you could just do as you did with my Zero run last year; let people submit it and then cut it out if you don't enjoy where it goes after release.
Actually idk, you can ignore this part of the post if you wish.
But, also, about the hotel. We would definitely need to get a better communication between Scandic (or any hotel) and the ESA attendants, since last years' hotel staff were kind of annoying for anyone staying at the hotel. We should definitely have a person (Swedish for the sake of simplicity) to communicate with the hotel and be the go-to-guy if anything comes around. We should honestly even discuss with them already about the possibilities to group up the areas for the event attendants so that we can live normally at the hotel without having to receive complaints from other guests about any tiny winy thing (full respect of other guests, which is why I think we should stay away from them, don't misunderstand this sentence pls). After all, this event changes the sleep cycle for everyone and they need to be aware of that at the hotel.
I am not saying we should be allowed to act like primitives at 4 AM, but last year the staff at the hotel were incredibly uneven and unfair when it came to communication with us. We were promised things by some individuals of the staff, and then when it came around, another staff member shut us down. We weren't allowed to even talk after like midnight since, even while having calm, normal voiced discussions, some staff members knocked on doors and told us to either get the F out of the hotel or go to bed and stay quiet. And it all ended up with an ultimatum: shut the F up and do not even try to discuss with us about it, or get kicked out of the hotel.
I had a LOT of conversations with the hotel staff last year and put myself as the "go-to-guy", taking responsibility to look over everything that the staff required from us and also come to agreements with the staff for both parties best interests. But as I said, it only held up until they changed shifts.
I understand that this might seem like "well it's their hotel and you have to go with their rules" and that I agree on and I have full respect for that. But that shouldn't mean we can not have an open discussion about it with the staff themselves beforehand. And having someone at the hotel staff to process agreements with even during the event would be extremely helpful to cut down misunderstandings (too many cooks spoil the broth). We live there during a full week and we need to understand each other if that is going to work out.
Also I am putting this here because after the hotel thread is up I'd say time is up.
Iirc Japanese is like estimated 5-10 seconds faster? idk.
What is the TAS doing that RTA runners don't? I highly doubt a 40 minutes lower time is purely "better optimization". There has to be some TAS-only tricks in here?
I really think "top X runs" would be a better idea instead of "under X time". This means that if/when new strats are found we won't have to change the rules and honestly, estimating a time where we can not "trust people's words anymore" feels weird.
Star Fox 2, Star Fox Command and Star Fox 64 3D should obviously ignore these kind of rules until they are more competitive.
We actually already know about this glitch and it is used in 242 runs, but nice that you share it with us however. :)
I am thinking about driving down to Växjö from Hälsingland on Saturday 23rd and back up on Saturday the 30th. If anyone wants to join me somewhere on the road between these two places (like Gävle, Uppsala, Stockholm and south) I would really enjoy picking you up and split the gas money. If I do this or go by train is completely depending if someone joins in or not. :)
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EDIT: Just read the full first post instead of just quickly scanning through it, ignore my post, I was epic trolled yo.
EDIT 2: Whatever I will just delete my post so people can not laugh at me.
'sup, I have a question to ask in here. Is the Japanese version of SoAL faster by any means? Because I have a version and I don't want it, so if there is a speedrunner who wants it I have it for sale.
Sorry for posting it random like this but I felt like I wouldn't create a new thread for it.
Honestly the mass housing works out nice. You would imagine people snoring and alarm clocks going of all the time would destroy your sleep but actually that is not the case. Also you are probably tired enough to fall asleep to anything while at this event. ;)
The mass housing is also a cool place to interact with other runners. Especially during the walk to and from the event.
