WalesI am all for the rule change even if I haven't ran BBS in over a year but I do think the one point that stands is the fact that you choose the difficulty on the Title Screen and if the runner starts their timing (and maybe their local recording) on the character select. How are we as the viewers supposed to know what the difficulty is without seeing the gameplay. Sure Beginner and Crit have their obvious differences but what about Standard and Proud? If we were to change this then it would need to be a requirement to show you selecting the category (or showing the end screen after the final fights) in the video to show the category that was chosen.
Just my two cents.
All the Category's are Arbitrary anyways.
Most of us, If not all have/had a split for achieving Gold/Silver Crown. So retiming the runs won't require that much work. I'm mostly on the side of Liquid here. 100% categories should end on Final Hit because of the 100% counter at the end of the credits. Gold Crown/Silver Crown does not have these counters so ending it when you achieve it make sense. If people want to go finish the game again after the run is over then they can do so.
I already told you when we discussed these points a few months ago. I'm so for this. Beating the game a second time only adds on unnecessary time. Also Gold Crown No CoR Skip was my jam. Totally for it. I already had Data Org routed out for GC Beginner before it started being Skipped OpieOP
they've been closed for a good 2 months and stuff. schedule is on the other thread.
flashy you damn idiot
Emulator ban is staying. There will be no change to add Time without Loads to the leaderboard. If someone wants to time their runs without the loads in it then they can do it in their own free time.
Timing without loads for a console game is a stupid idea. Either deal with the Emulator ban or put up with not having your times on the leaderboard.
Remember when they stole all the speedrun.com rulesets and we shot them down?
Good times.
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Yeah once i have a route of sorts sorted out. I will update the rule set with a banned rule set. In my eyes, if you arent straight up using a wall to skip a segment of the game then they can be used. For example in Clamour 1 where you can get snacks without double jump. That wouldn't be allowed, but if you had double jump and did it. It wouldn't be a glitch. I dunno. I'll figure something out that everyone can be happy with.
I've been on the fence about this argument just because both sides have decent arguments but I can now say I totally agree with requiring video proof for one reason and one reason only. We are finally on a leaderboard website. No longer a Google Doc with a bunch of names and numbers on it. If people want their times on here, they should totally need video proof. Before the switch to SRC you could just have a leaderboard mod just watch your stream and they would update your times without you even needing to highlight the run, so because of this, people never had highlights for their PBs just because they knew it was on the leaderboard (i'm guilty of this as my 3:00:48 1.5 time got updated on the LBs after i got it so i never bothered highlighting it so my SRC time lacks a video. Another example was BB's 2.5 English record, because it was already on the LBs he didn't feel the need to highlight it) . The whole cut off idea is quite nice for those "just starting out" people but a problem i see with it is that said people without the means to capture runs just yet, would feel pressured during their runs, they could be a few minutes off the cut off but might not want to do runs just because of the off chance they might hit the cut off and not be able to stay on the leaderboards, if they really want to get into it then they can just invest in a $5 capture device (I mean hell thats how Salad got by the last year and a bit. EZCaps get you places). Its not like they are needed for HD games either. People like Myself, BTrue and BB get by streaming HD games using SD Captures. Hell you don't even need capture cards. You could just point a camera at screen like MySora and hell a few of the guys in the Scooby community have decent times and they just point a camera at the screen. Its 2016, sure not everyone has godly internet and a professional setup. But if you watch twitch and want to get into speedrunning because of it then it must mean you have some kind of Phone or Computer or something else that can just capture a video of the run.
If its one thing about this is, there shouldn't be any pressure on this just because other communities have different rule sets about their games (PSX Final Doom used to have a rule where you couldn't use Twitch VoDs lmao). If Weed is Legal in one state, why should another state be pressured to legalize it in theirs too? Using examples of other community rule-sets helps for discussion but using it as a "they do it so why don't we" is a pretty dumb argument imo.
Take this as a grain of salt from someone who just got finished with some drama about a kid who claimed a dozen World Records without video's or videos just containing splits on his iPod, something people in this discussion are specially afraid of happening. We don't want that happening. People are smarter than that.
Hopefully this discussion reaches a nice mutual conclusion. Its interesting seeing everyone's viewpoints on different aspects of learning a game and leaderboard rulesets. Kiwi's comparisons to the Smash community were pretty neat. Show's you how much similarities there are between the two.
Anywho my vote is for 100% video proof. If the cut off thing does happen, I would just make sure its a system that works well for everyone.
you literally hold down, left click and s at the same time
isn't very hard
if you get sub 4 we will add it ok
I assume that the reason that KH Birth by Sleep Final Mix HD has that comment is because you guys couldnt find the leaderboards. Which can be found here: www.khleaderboards.com
RIP all of my games. Understandable.
(also what did you guys mean by "couldnt find any times"?)
