I think Isaac, Apollyon and Maggie need some kind of uniqueness to them in the run but I feel schoolbag is a bit too OP. It kinda defeats the purpose of 14 chars, where you have to deal with some bad characters and some good ones over the course of the full thing

I'd like to stick with 9 char runs, never been of a fan of 7-11-14. Swapping in Keeper or Eve though sounds like a nice way to spice things up.

I don't think anyone actually uses co-op baby for combat (by duping input with joy2key, etc) other than Zam, but if more people do decide to do those kind of runs and submitting them, then they should be their own category. It's different enough from a "vanilla" run and drastically changes the way the game is played. As for co-op baby in devil deals only, I'm all for keeping it. In my eyes it's just another in-game tool we can use to make our runs faster, and does not use any outside influence (like input duping)

Once the expansion hits, it will have it's own categories, just as Afterbirth does. The expansion and it's features should have no bearing on what we currently allow or disallow.

How does a Jud6s speedrun work anyway?

I'm not saying that this kind of run shouldn't be allowed period, If people wanna use tools to practice "perfect" runs, and they find that fun, then go for it, but it should NOT fall under the same category as a normal 1 character run.

As LadyKurai said, I've seen countless viewers also agree that this program should not be allowed, this isn't just a minority of speedrunners who think this. Also, Firkraag, just because a TAS tool does something that is "technically" possible in a run doesn't mean you're not still using a TAS tool to do it. And this program most definitely falls under the category of a TAS tool.

Allowing programs to play the game for us is not the best approach. Might as well just allow cheat engine at that point. Stuff like item Tracker or Missing HUD do not improve, control or allow anything in a run that can't already be done by the player themselves, while this new program automatically can find seeds, and reset Eden for you. If this doesn't make a run TAS, then what the hell does?

If Zamiell used outside programs and sources to do his run, then it should be considered a Tool Assisted Run at the very least, and be it's own category. It has no place being 1st for the current 1 character times.

I'm not sure this really needed to be posted here.