defo needs wiping now due to having to go through the entirety of sublevel 13a +>50s

there is defo randomness in this game. On maps like honeycomb heist and silent sanctuary the paths enemies take are random. Ornate will select a random tower to downgrade. not to mention that often the times you get depends on your internet

although 11-20 may seem arbitrary, I see it as like the second half of the original game and is where the game start to pick up and is actually enjoyable, I don't see a reason why this should not be added it is not like this game is heavily speedran anyways, it might even give me a reason to play this game and just add a few full game underpinning catagories

S17 is the best speedrun hands down

Basically in 1-b you are no longer able to fall down the long spiral of stairs without getting tped, it is ~50s slower so it is highly likely that the 1-20 Skips leadboard will require a wipe, possibly an archive would be better, idk if that is possible. Knowing the game it might revert the changes.

truely one of the best decks and one of my favourites

i hope it stays broken, and i do think it is balanced in the sense that most players will never use stella or learn how it works which is kinda sad cause it is insane op, literally the only reason it is possible to duo bleak on hard and solo on easy

il just do it again

noice

some sublevels would be faster in multi-player mainly when you get into underpinning here are the sublevels that would be faster not including bosses

7

16

25 : people can enter codes while one person gets buttons

28

29

35 : giant time saves here

36 : people entering the code

39

that is 20% of the current levels in 1-40 no skips

Not to mention there will likely be more sub level with more than 1 button in 41 - 50

although it might not make the game play faster it would make it more of a challenge

I understand that but i would really like something to keep speedrunning a little more entertaining especially as 1-20 no skips is really challenging like i was so sad that i got a 19:14

zir0nic has already said:

"i like the idea of apoapsis-malice but i'm a bit hesitant since it would become really weird once the next offset releases, especially if it has another boss fight" (https://www.speedrun.com/pm_606/news/jxnveg3k)

which is very understandable and if he were to do a leaderboard wipe once the next offset is added people who grinded and got a lucky run especially with pipes being so luck based would be quite mad

I think it would be great to have multiplayer runs to add more challenge and make speedrunning pm 6:06 more fun. I believe it should currently only be available for "full game" categories as having it for individual levels don't provide as much more content. Currently I believe we should start with just a duo category for this and expand later

I think the rules should be very similar to solo but with these additions:

• All players need to beat the last level (no one can fully die)
• All players need to submit their POV to validate a run
• Any glitches are banned including : Carry Clipping, Clicking buttons while dead through walls (often done in sub 18)

Most other games include multi-player runs with an example being doors so i definitely believe this should be added even if it is not used right away

I Don't think that would be really a speedrun then (amusing you are suggesting that you are given a certain amount of time to get as many badges as possible)

After 3 months this still stands. I have spent over 100 runs trying to beat this and have not came very close. When i posted this i did not realise how stupidly hard this was to beat it is such a shame this was not a sub 19. This run is mental

nice

this run needs to be removed it's weird that there is 2 runs on this leader board by me

A 1-10 Category definitely needs adding

I do agree with zir0nic as "You can run..." is just fear but annoying to do possibly an "all obtainable badges speed run" or one of of the skip badges however they might not work well unless you started at sublevel 1 but then it would be a bit weird of speed run category. An "all obtainable badges" might be the best speed run to do with badges but even then are we going to have to get the "Summit" badge despite it not being in pm 6:06, do we consider it already collected or do we need to get it and there would be no avoiding this badge due to "Air of Dread", "Remnant of some forgotten Tragedy" and "The Fall" being tied to it. Another problem would be the "Virus" badge because it is only obtainable by playing with another person which is not allowed while playing solo. The best I think is to say that the "Virus" badge is the only badge that will not be obtained.

I am unsure if "Summit" badge is still required to get "Air of Dread"