Why there's all of the sudden a NG Easy category? Has this been discussed at all?

Thank you.

I know you can pretty much play this without hassle on Windows 10 installing some fanmade patches, but those patches usually come with balance changes and shit like that thus, bad for speedrunning.

What's the best way to run this as "vanilla" as possible on modern OS?

EDIT: At the moment, the official rules of this community (out of runner's ideas) state that IGT is used for NG+ (with no idling in the menus) and RTA for NG in every platform.

ORIGINAL POST: Hi there. As you probably have noticed there have been some drastic changes in the moderation team, and I think in some way they had it coming because reasons.

Anyways, let's get to the point and vote a definitive way of timing the PC and console versions of the game:

PC (Steam) -

We voted for RTA without loads some weeks ago but we don't have a fully functional load removal tool (for everyone) at the moment and that meant that literally no one could submit PC runs under those rules, so I think the best solution for now is reverting the load remover rule and use IGT again for now (and that would mean no variable/120fps runs for the time being imo).

One thing that is for sure is that we want to avoid going back to the typical RTA timing which was kinda unfair. IGT makes sense.

CONSOLE (PS3/PS4/X360/XB1) -

Since there's no variable FPS to deal with in the console versions and they just run 30 or 60fps depending on the console generation, let's just keep it timed via IGT because it seems the most logical solution for all of the console versions, no PC hardware variants here whatsoever.

Tell me if you agree or not with this as a "fix" for the timing rules once and for all. I'm open to suggestions and ideas.

The days of closing threads without reaching a conclusion are over, so feel free to debate this here for as long as you want, and hopefully finding a consensus solution in the way :)

Just wondering if consoles still go by IGT and RTA is the focus for the PC version, since the rules are not 100% clear about that.

I made some minor design changes for the full-game leaderboard. It looks more organized I believe.

Also, I updated the rules for each category to be more clear, limited the difficulty variables to Amateur and No Hope only (fastest and hardest which makes sense for speedruns) and stated that in case of New Game Coop, all runs submitted must show the two sides of the run to verify that the second player is playing legit NG too.

What do you think?

Since loading times can be a huge factor in this game and RE6, I'm looking for people that can develop a load remover script for RE5/6 so we can make anyone, regardless of his PC hardware, run these games competitively.

If you know how to do this or know someone who can do it, please let him know about the idea :D

We don't know yet if this will be ever popular or even stable for most of the people. But for now, go ahead and start submitting your runs on Dolphin.

Doing this is better than doing nothing after the voting and previous discussion about putting the category up or not. Having listed runs done on that emulator will help to analyze if it can be competitive with an specific release of Dolphin.

It's simple, just say "Yes" or "No" in this thread to evaluate the real interest on this category. Additional comments and thoughts in the SAME POST in which you voted are allowed (example: "Yes, because I think this version deserves it" or "No, because there are enough categories already".

Voting will last 48 hours (until Saturday 5 at 11AM GMT+1).

Conditions for the creation of RE2 GCN Emu category:

• If the category gets created, it will need detailed information about what's the best Dolphin version and configuration to run the game properly in the category description.
• If this category is inactive for more than a month, it will be deleted (since we want to keep emu categories to a minimum).
• No other category will be removed in compensation (EX levels).

Since the fastest way to run this game is with this emulator (PSP and PS3 could be in the same category IMHO) I recommend to all the runners to show their ePSXe audio/video configuration for this game, so we can all compete in the same level!

Thank you.

The problem with NG is that you need to do the boring forced tutorial section with Leon/Helena every time you start the game without a save. To avoid this but still having a clean save to do a New Game run we need the gamesave that we get just after finishing the mandatory tutorial.

PC

• Make sure you have Steam Cloud activated on RE6 to keep your normal file safe (the one you use for casual runs, NG+ runs, etc), then turn Steam into offline mode.
• Now go to "Program Files/Steam/userdata/(youraccountfolder)/221040/remote" and then delete the "savedata" inside the folder.
• Now if you start the game on Steam with the offline mode enabled you'll start the game from scratch. Do the forced tutorial and go to the main menu to make sure you have your new save file.
• Exit the game and go to the same folder where you deleted the savedata before, then backup the new "savedata" file.
• Every time you finish a run or have to reset, go to said Steam folder and replace the savedata with the clean NG file you have as a backup.

WARNING: Be sure to delete the local savedata before going back to Steam online mode, so you keep the NG+ file intact.

PS3 / PS4

• Create a new user account (or use one already created that it does not have RE6 files), start the game and do the mandatory tutorial.
• Right after finishing the tutorial, go to the main menu of RE6 to make sure the game is saved and exit the game.
• Copy the gamesave to another user account that you know it doesn't have any RE6 data on it (that account will keep the gamesave, don't use it to load that save so you keep it clean for your main account for NG runs).
• When you finish your NG run or you have to reset, exit the game, delete the savedata from the account you're using to play your NG run and get the copy of the clean save from the other account.

This game is quite inactive but still I wanted to arrange the leaderboards to be clearer.

Coop runs take priority on the board since it's where the real competition lives and makes the game extremely faster over solo.

Now New Game+ is every run you start with your common save file (upgraded skills or infinite ammo). Not using infinite ammo in this game is NOT reason enough to call it NG because the upgraded skills are overpowered and having some of the best skills maxed out it's pretty much a NG+ element.

If you want to do a "No Skill" run the best way to do that is running No Hope difficulty since there are no skill sets there to begin with.

If you want to run New Game, delete the save files or use another account if you use a console to run the game (if you know the RE5 way to do this, it might be the same procedure). I'm not 100% sure if you're forced to repeat the tutorial with Leon/Helena but the ideal would be to keep the save right after that tutorial just for the run, so you have the choice to choose any campaign with clean inventory/skills.

Hope you like the changes and we eventually see more people running this. After all, NG+ is the fastest/most convenient way to play this.

If you have tips or concerns about these changes this is the place to discuss it. Thank you.

If people ever seriously asks for a New Game category, what should the procedure be? Deleting the Steam save folder like in RE5 to start from zero? Because just not using infinite ammo and on the other hand being allowed to use all kind of maxed out skills does not make a huge difference to call it NG.

One of the concerns I see about a clean save is that I think you're forced to do the Leon/Helena scripted slow-ass tutorial, so that would suck to begin with.

I create this thread just to hear some thoughts, but at the moment there's no Clean Save NG category on the way, unless there's a lot of people immediately interested on it.

I'm asking this because I think having a Coop Ada category seems pointless. Why? Because Ada's partner was patched in for no reason when her campaign was designed around only one player.

Sure the second player, a poorman's Hunk, can maybe help to kill mobs faster (pointless for this campaign, centered around "puzzles" and Ada-only QTE interactions) but it's hilarious that he can't interact literally with ANYTHING to make the story progress, not even a door, which makes me wonder if there's a single advantage of running it coop.

I'm wondering if someone would miss that category.

Thoughts?