New South Wales, AustraliaI would love for a soulstorm and winter assult pages, ive said in the past i plan to run all the DoW games but theres intrest beyond just me we should push to make it happen.
I like 100% cause thats what i always did casual but its just a matter of shaving off time.
And Max they spirit of competition is strong ive come to expect that when a new score is up you would come for it so i look forward to the run, what factions next on the chopping block tho, normally crons are the speedrun favorite for AS but since beacon is a important strat i wonder what will be the 2nd faction to get a run.
Co op is a great idea , i didnt want to split the categorys even more if there was no intrest but ill make it a thing.
Do you already have a partner?
In that case i would let them recapture it as long they have all strongholds at the end, they have done the mission , feels bad enough the time loss retaking the place anyway. Its a unlikely scenario anyway as i found that on easy with max guards ive never lost a stronghold to auto fight anyway, could happen tho.
Even with the times as they are this was a dead catagory so reguardless of time im just happy to see life brought into it, i could be a snob and say it only happened cause i dared to traverse new and fertile land but that would be bullcrap, the group is making strides with the category with the discussion of strats and helping each other.
Tho i am curious are you working to smash my time or you guys trying out other factions. I play space marines cause thats what i play on the tabletop its not like their the best to play in DC afterall.
Sorry i havent got to this sooner ive been without my pc for a few days and will still be for a week or two , now for my actual response.
It will be a hassle since there will be a few runs that drop off the face of the earth and RNG could turn from annoying to run killer but that said i agree that all strongholds should be our best foot forward, its supposed to be more in depth and thus engaging then any% but much shorter and sweeter than 100%, so reforming the category seems like a good idea, makes it cleaner like with 100% changes so i can see where your comming from.
So lets get to the meat of the matter, all the previous runs , my first thoughts would make it another category but that runs into a problem of why split the categorys even more when the difference is so little especially when as of now the community is so small , so without just straight up removing the runs turning them into Any% is the right move as much as it feels like pulling teeth.
On a personal note, this is technically the 3rd time that ive done a run and rules change threaten it the 1st was DoW2, the situation got so out of hand the old mod was banned and i became mod but here with 100% and now AS you've talked with the group and thus me to find a resolution together to make the game better as a whole and because of that i dont feel salty about removing or changing the runs so dont feel like im gonna hunt you down or anything cause i no longer have WR at something, id rather sacrifice that to bring more people into the game and grow it , a WR only means as much as other people acknowledge it anyway. Besides i just have to find a new way to beat you, wouldnt be the first time i tried my friend.
i was doin a All strongholds run for SM but since its pulled from my stream and my Internet cut for a moment (damn you aussie networks) the video was split into two parts with about a minute missing in the middle, so now i cant really use it as evidence of my run, shame i got a 1.10.48
its a shame when things crash or go wrong but i know how it feels.
and its done, could drop a considerable ammount of time with better routing and a better idea of how long you have to farm the beacon but it cut an hour off my test run.
Alight i did some testing and have some good news and bad news, first lets breakdown of the orks.
Ork stronghold - So while it seems it only spawns more orks when you first assault one of the banners it dosent keep up so the strat is basically dead when it comes to trying to grind em of the banners but there a smal backupl strat i found to maximise kills.
The small base and two banners if left alone will quasi regularly attack your base while a bit slow to grind kills it eeks out some more kills , i found the best way of doing this is after you have Hyperion Peaks so you can rec four turrets (turning two into missile) and maxed out listening posts next to them, with this set up my base was never being overwhelmed and moved my army around the rest of the ork stronghold, and just send the one tank army that is the landraider to cleanup the base and banners left alone just before moving onto the warboss.
The necron "Beacon strat" - went into the mission with 70 kills with a test and wille ignoring as many enemys as possibe accept the ones that spawn into the base and the beacon and walked out with about at little under 500 extra kills so it seems that beacon respawns DO count for kills so it makes it a very good grind spot, i found a good way of grinding this spot would be leave this stronghold later on the line so you have a idea of how long you need to grind left and so you can immediately send honor guard to the becon, i play space marines so my strat was 3 First compay vets with heavy bolters and one squad of tactical marines with heavy bolters being a small but strong force to farm the beacon.
ill do some testing tonight or tommorrow., ill test out "Beacon" and "Banner" strats, also Sara while yea we knew about quit out we still appreciate the help, its not a very big group so its nice to see another face jumping in.
im uploading my first run and it took too darn long, tho i only learnt at the end of the run i think i found a possible strat , there was a part that when i was going at one of the banners two or three squads of boyz just spawned automatically, if we can figure out the if this is a one off or if its continuous then we might be able to farm it, requires further testing.
The necrons thing im not sure about, since kills dont track on failures its hard to see what kills are in the beacon or just the mission in general. again requires further testing.
Alright we really need to workout how were getting to 5k kills cause its adding two hours to the run.
A few things i found:
Kills are only counted if you win the mission, if i could jump in the ork stronghold and clear out and quit out then it wouldn't be a problem.
The other thing that could be done is waiting untill all enemy zones are 10 strength for more kills but that ups the chance of AI taking AI strongholds.
So we need to find the best grind spot or mess around and see if difficulty spawns more enemys.
Any thoughts?
If time is a issue maybe you should find games that are sub 30min or something or is it just "life" dosent permit it right now?
Dawn of war one is a pretty good run and some guy from Russia asked me to make guides for the run (which i need to get back to), the only proplem is it took awhile to get my runs approved and after 25 days i had to ask Liv for help to get that sorted. I like the Dawn of War two run more myself but we recently had alot of drama there with the previous mod being let go.
DC and DoW2 Ret have been the only games ive ran so far that have been consistently getting runs approved and DC is the only one that i feel is active.
im also thinking about doing winter assult but im not interested in soul , the webway gates make a hassle to get around and less routing possibilities. ultimately i want to do all the DoW games (yes even 3) as its kinda my theme right now , after that i think im looking at halo wars 1 and 2 and after that maybe something that is'nt a damn RTS dunno what tho.
It dosent bother me too much and i agree that it is unlikely to be locked out of 3 strongholds, tho we seem to be the only to active runners for the game so you might as well change it now and as i said i was of two minds and can see why you do this and i do agree it makes the categories neater with more difference between it and all strongholds.
Dont worry about the run while i haven't put it here cause of the potential change its still on my youtube and you can see there that i said it was a poor run that could be improved apon so i dont feel too attached to it , still gives me some experience with the route and such, some maps havent played in years since it did it casual, it was more of a trail run than anything else.
PS: for 3 to1 kill because i found the map bonus that lets you buy buildings with Rec that i forget the name of basicly guarantees the the 3 to 1 as you have a locked set of units and theres way more orks.
Crap i just uploaded a run and i sure as heck didnt got half the wargear. I dont think this impacts what im about to say here just wanted to say it so no one points out that im just being contrarian to keep my run.
Im of two minds, it makes sence at least on paper to get wargear and most of the time you should get most of it anyway with the kills being the only hassle.
Its just there maybe some problems in execution first i found i didn't get the wargear for defeated enemy's beacuse it seems to trigger on you removing that AI out of the game so if its a stronghold taken by another AI it WONT give a defeated enemy wargear (or it may have been a glitch but that would also be bad but in a different way) and it means a run with bad RNG can just kill your run.
Getting 5k kills is a bit of a slog and will probably result in farming one mission for half an hour , the most likely being the ork stronghold at the top of my head.
I admit im curious about tau, but i never played them casually so i didnt want to jump in a speed run with them, while might be abit before i post a run i might be doing some routing for 100% namely the of order points of interest to take. Might make a disscusion here at some point.
My PC is a chimera of various parts and im only now getting around to upgrading , a SSD is part of it along with a getter graphics card and some less needed things like a better monitor with a better keyboard and mouse. Once i get these ill try some more SM and IG runs, also wanted to try a 100% run or two.
Im lead to believe that it makes loading times shorter and im getting one for just general gaming but i wanted to go around to the games i plan to run to get thoughts about it reguarding runs.
