Kommentarer
Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Some notes about the other bosses that I haven't explained above:

Drakkisath: Now it's significantly easier compared to how it was a year ago, since the AI prefers to trade more often and because they never used Kidnapper's Combo somehow (they always used Kidnapper as their first card). The finishing time have a huge variance, it could go between 2 to 5.5 minutes.

Rend Blackhand: Significant improvement thanks to Call to Arms, the deck is now more consistent and faster compared to my old run a year ago. Usually I got a time between 3.5 to 5 minutes.

Razorgore: Void Ripper and Corridor Creeper are pretty good for this boss, expect Creeper to be nerfed eventually though.

Chromaggus: This boss becomes even harder compared to how it was when me and Tsubaki are running this, because the AI now will properly use their Claw and Bite. With the old AI, somehow the AI thinks that Claw and Bite are healing spells and will only use it when they have a low HP. My deck seems to have less than 50% winrate against this boss, maybe somewhere around 40%.

Nefarian: Two possible strats that seems to have the same speed, Warlock (with Majordomo+Treachery) or OTK Priest (the one that Tsubaki used in his 1:13 run). With both decks, I got a time around 3.5 to 5.5 minutes, not sure which one have a better average time.

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

I tried Maloriak with Warlock and it seems to have slightly better winrate and speed compared to the Priest deck that I used in my 1:14 run, here's the list https://imgur.com/a/ly0Ux

Gameplan is just to stall early on, and then gain board control and hit face in the late game with your minions. Warlock have really good board clears for this boss (Hellfire and Abyssal Enforcer, also Shadowflame although it's more situational)

There are a bunch of alternative cards that you can put in the deck. Maybe more early game (such as Zombie Chow or Plated Beetle), more Poisonous minions (such as Giant Wasp and Stubborn Gastropod), more Silences, more secret counters, and also put two copies of cards that I only have one of in my list.

When I started building this deck, I was thinking to put Bloodreaver Guldan and N'zoth as a finisher (similar to how I used N'zoth in my Priest deck), but the mana seems too high and is unnecessary to kill the boss. Voidlord already acts as a really good finisher as long as it doesn't get Polymorphed.

Also, credits to Neonangel for his Maloriak guide which inspires me to try Warlock for this boss. http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-game-modes/adventures/176421-adventure-decks-the-complete-guide

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

@picpic7 it's alright, sound isnt necessary for the submission as long as the video of run is complete.

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

2021 Update: Recent poll on HS Discord voted to allow Deck Trackers, so this post is obsolete.

Original post:

About three weeks ago, the people at Discord Channel had some discussion about deck trackers, and majority of people decided to ban it for speedruns.

However, I forgot to actually edit the rules (lol). A recent submitted run used a deck tracker, and it won't be considered invalid since the rules aren't set yet.

So, from now on, third party apps such as deck trackers are banned.

Thank you for your understanding, and good luck on the runs :)

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

@Gold74 Can't add milliseconds for only one run. Enabling milliseconds on the leaderboard means that all runs throughout the leaderboard will need to show milliseconds. Verifying the milliseconds will take too much work and is unnecessary since this isn't a game where milliseconds normally matters. If there's a draw, then so be it.

Sanny tycker om detta
Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

The priest OTK combo can be improved now thanks to Temporus. Old combo uses Emperor Thaurissan + Mirage Caller to set up the combo, while now you could just use Temporus so the combo only requires 5 cards instead of 6. (Temporus, Velen, Mirage Caller, Volazj, Mind Blast)

If you only need 64 damage, an alternative will be to use Stormwatcher + 2x Divine Spirit + Inner Fire.

Although there's an obvious downside to this combo since it gives the opponent an extra turn, which could easily kills you. For Lord Nefarius, this risk is irrelevant since there will be a point where your opponent stops playing any minions once his hand is full of spells.

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Baron Geddon with Majordomo Executus + Treachery combo: https://imgur.com/a/phfS5

Similar to the Ragnaros fight, where it's easy to gain board control against the boss but it takes a long time to kill him. This deck takes between 3 to 5 minutes, which is significantly faster than my old Zoolock deck and is more consistent than Tsubaki's Token Druid deck.

Thaurissan isn't necessary here (probably also not necessary for the Ragnaros fight). Putting Majordomo without using Treachery immediately won't be dangerous, since the AI usually never have enough damaging spells to kill Majordomo, and AI usually have other targets that they prioritize.

The deck itself might not be optimal though. I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of other ways to build this deck, such as putting a lot of typical zoo minions such as Darkshire Councilman or Defender of Argus.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzVkBEzWg4

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

So, because they're so close with each other, I feel like I need to download the videos and properly check their timing by the milliseconds.

Driward's run: Frame where he hits Play button: 1.534 Frame where HP turns 0: 14:10.534 So the final time is exactly 14:09.00

Torlk's run: Frame where he hits Play button: 15.617 Frame where HP turns 0: 14:25.032 So final time is 14:09.415, which will be shown as a draw with Driward's run since milliseconds arent shown in the leaderboards.

Congrats to both runner for the crazy times though. Let's see how quick will this record be broken (if ever)!

LaFayette och Cococolo77 gillar detta
Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

the Twitch Dungeon Run Challenge have 2 people who got 9/9 attempts, and a bunch of others who got 11-12 attempts. So a 'decent' attempt with only few losses are definitely viable. Who knows how many hours or resets it will take for someone to get a decent run though lol.

Fimbz was the one who first expressed interest in trying out this run.

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Yeah, that strategy does seem to have a huge potential, although I guess nobody else have tried it for a speedrun.

If you want to talk more with other HS speedrunners, I recommend joining the HS Speedrun Discord server. And welcome @pjx326 ;)

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Ragnaros with Majordomo Executus + Treachery combo: image.ibb.co/j8iJGb/ragnaros_warlock.png

Similar to the strategy used by Tsubaki & Mirin on their heroic Karazhan run during 'RTA in Japan'. Majordomo is similar to Nazra, but significantly easier. So you can put more card draws in the deck to get a faster time. I normally get a time between 3 to 5 minutes with this deck. (Also, I forgot to try out Coldlight Oracle in this deck)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn3iu0sNNx4

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Turns out in the new K&C AI, Lich King + Taunt exploits didnt work as well as before. AI still tend to attack your taunts, which might cause the Souls to die if the Taunt minion have 1 attack (Righteous Protector or Annoy-O-Tron). Thankfully, we have Wax Elemental which prevents these souls from dying.

The AI also normally only attack once if the Wax Elemental still have a Divine Shield, which makes the AI able to temporarily kill the Elemental next turn and allows them to attack Kel'thuzad once. So it's recommended to put two taunts instead of one.

(Also thanks Zypher for noticing me about this issue)

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

@DarQ_Massacres maybe you could bring this up on the discord channel, it's easier to discuss these things with others on that channel. Also, welcome :)

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

By class categories, you mean separating each classes into different categories? For now, the community prefers to make every classes into one category, you can use the Class filter to see the rankings for each classes if you want to. Also, welcome ;)

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago
  1. Use High settings instead of Low or Medium. Low/Med settings locks the game into 30 FPS and have slower animation compared to High.

  2. When the enemy plays a card or hero power, click on the card/hero power that is being played. This will make the enemy's move to start earlier, which saves up a lot of time during the whole run. This trick also applies whenever a secret is triggered or a Passive card shows up on the first turn.

GoodleShoes tycker om detta
Indonesiasrd_277 years ago
  • If Gnosh the Greatworm uses his hero power to destroy a Poisonous minion, he will instantly die. It's possible for a Rogue to kill him on turn 1 by playing a Pit Snake.

  • Against Ixlid, a Priest can use Potion of Madness to steal Ixlid's spore and instakill Ixlid. Even better if you managed to add the spore in your deck for future bosses (using Amulet of Domination or Magic Mirror).

  • For Shaman, Unstable Evolution + Khadgar's Scrying Orb (1-mana Spell cost reduction) means unlimited Evolve

Feel free to add any other tricks here. Also thanks to Whammerist and Zypher for the tips above.

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Gothik with Mill Druid: https://imgur.com/a/0KL8b

Mill Druid is really suitable in this boss since the boss draws 2 cards each turn, and he's not that strong so Mill Druid's limited control tools are enough to survive against this boss. Seems to be slightly faster than the old Shaman strats, I got around 4:00-5:20 with this deck while the old Shaman deck probably takes 4:30-5:30+.

The decklist that I posted above have lots of cards with only one copy, because I'm not sure which of those cards I need to take out of the deck. Branching Paths should also be strong for this deck, and for most Druid decks in general.

I haven't tried to make a Tempo/Midrange deck yet for this boss, probably not feasible since this boss have a strong early tempo from his Hero Power, but it'll probably save even more time if a consistent Tempo deck can be made.

tråd: The Site
Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

I'm an Indonesian who's currently living in another country. Recently, my country flag is suddenly missing, and the site prevents me from putting back my country flag because I'm not in Indonesia. What's funny is that I can still choose most random countries such as US and France.

Not sure why this restriction is implemented. Maybe you guys want to avoid people putting troll flags, but I can still choose Antarctica anyway if I want to troll.

Just a minor gripe but this feels kinda sucks, especially since there's not a lot of Indonesians in this site for now. Who knows in the future, an Indonesian newcomer might be more encouraged to participate in the games that I ran after seeing a fellow Indonesian on the leaderboards. This could apply to any newcomers from all under-represented countries.

Indonesiasrd_277 years ago

Scarvash with Paladin: https://imgur.com/a/haWz4

Significantly better winrate and speed compared to the old Warrior deck. Molten Giant, Sunkeeper Tarim and Ivory Knight are really useful. Although you'll still want to mulligan for your early game cards (including Molten Giant).

Doubt the list is optimal yet though. I have Deathwing in this list although I never need to use it, so you can replace it with any other card (Maybe another late-game minion such as the Lich King, or a 4-mana minion such as Sen'jin Shieldmasta).

Om srd_27
Gick med
9 years ago
Online
today
Körningar
206
Spel körda
Blackrock Mountain
Blackrock Mountain
Senaste körning 11 months ago
21
Körningar
League of Explorers
League of Explorers
Senaste körning 3 years ago
20
Körningar
Knights of the Frozen Throne
Knights of the Frozen Throne
Senaste körning 2 years ago
15
Körningar
The Dalaran Heist
The Dalaran Heist
Senaste körning 5 years ago
15
Körningar
Curse of Naxxramas
Curse of Naxxramas
Senaste körning 1 year ago
14
Körningar
Galakrond's Awakening
Galakrond's Awakening
Senaste körning 2 years ago
14
Körningar
The Witchwood
The Witchwood
Senaste körning 7 years ago
12
Körningar
Kobolds & Catacombs
Kobolds & Catacombs
Senaste körning 6 years ago
11
Körningar
Följda spel
Suikoden Tactics
Suikoden Tactics
Senaste besök 1 year ago
66
besök
Rebel Cops
Rebel Cops
Senaste besök 1 year ago
1
besök
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Senaste besök 11 months ago
1
besök
This Is the Police 2
This Is the Police 2
Senaste besök 12 days ago
1
besök
Blackrock Mountain
Blackrock Mountain
Senaste besök 1 year ago
2,547
besök
Shakedown: Hawaii
Shakedown: Hawaii
Senaste besök 1 year ago
747
besök
Curse of Naxxramas
Curse of Naxxramas
Senaste besök 1 year ago
2,880
besök
League of Explorers
League of Explorers
Senaste besök 1 year ago
2,000
besök
Modererade spel
Kobolds & Catacombs
Kobolds & Catacombs
Senaste åtgärd 7 months ago
233
åtgärder
League of Explorers
League of Explorers
Senaste åtgärd 7 months ago
90
åtgärder
Curse of Naxxramas
Curse of Naxxramas
Senaste åtgärd 1 year ago
81
åtgärder
Galakrond's Awakening
Galakrond's Awakening
Senaste åtgärd 1 year ago
74
åtgärder
Book of Mercenaries
Book of Mercenaries
Senaste åtgärd 1 year ago
74
åtgärder
One Night in Karazhan
One Night in Karazhan
Senaste åtgärd 2 years ago
66
åtgärder
Hearthstone
Hearthstone
Senaste åtgärd 3 months ago
59
åtgärder
The Dalaran Heist
The Dalaran Heist
Senaste åtgärd 1 year ago
58
åtgärder