It's because you play on console, load times on PC are faster. Interesting to hear about the other changes though!

If you went ahead and played the game up until the DLC levels open before starting a Hidden World -category run, it would still take like 15 minutes or something to get to that point, which would mean there's quite a lot you have to go through with every reset. In my opinion, when the DLC is put in the game like that (meaning it's not available to be played separately whenever you want and it only opens up in the middle of the game), having categories as "Any%" and "Any% w/DLC" would be smarter. So, if it was like that, the rules would be to just play Any% like normal, but when the Hidden World is available, you just add those levels to the run as well. Same would be with "100%" vs. "100% w/DLC" etc.

However, those are just my thoughts and opinions. :)

Also: about the difficulties of reorganizing because of the disappearing, there is a way to go around it (I had to do it before when moderating another game). I remember it was a bit tricky to figure out, but I managed to do it. It is some extra work for sure, but it is possible. There are many forum posts on src that have conversations on the theme:

https://www.speedrun.com/forums/the_site/9cl0r#c3u7x

https://www.speedrun.com/forums/the_site/mlg49

https://www.speedrun.com/forums/the_site/sfa9x#f6a1f

I agree, it would be nice to tidy up the leaderboards, so it would be easier and more clear to navigate through. Now they're quite unclear.

I personally love organizing things, so if the current moderators are up for it but can't find the time, I'd be happy to help. :)

Yo I'm back with this one 2 years later! I'll be submitting a new All Feathers run under another category since it's not an official one on the leaderboards. You can add an All Feathers category if you want to :)

Seems like it happened in a similar way here in the video as with me: the broom sweep happened like exactly in the middle. Might have something to do with the placement of the broom?

Yeah I had this happen once as well - I already have it listed on the strats post! If it can be made consistent, sub 4:30 can happen sooner or later!

I'm making a list of strats, feel free to mention stuff I possibly forget to mention/if new stuff gets found and I'll update the list! (posting this on forums intead of guides so you can comment under this)

• STAIRS MOVEMENT: going up the stairs facing forward might be faster than holding diagonally (not 100 % sure on this)
• ENTERING YOUR ROOM: if you're about to interact with the bed, entering the room while pressing "D" is faster
• NIGHTS 2-4/MIDNIGHT 0: you can move during black screens (PC only, except Midnight 0 which works on mobile too)
• NIGHT 2: interacting with objects while talking: you can grab the broom and open the toilet door while talking to Shrek
• NIGHT 2: you can clean the two dirty spots in the middle with only one sweep (this has been proven to happen only twice, so I'm not sure if it can be consistent or just luck)
• NIGHT 2: after hiding the painting, you can move closer to the bed before Shrek opens the door and starts talking (mobile only)
• NIGHT 4: you can move down the stairs while Shrek is talking to you about the painting
• NIGHT 4: Carl can push you to the correct direction when you grab the final box if you're standing in his way. If you manage to grab the box while the push happens, it saves time.
• NIGHT 4: if you're faster with the last box than Carl, he can push you forward when Shrek is talking to you (only useful on PC, since on mobile he runs next to where the painting was instead of his room)
• MIDNIGHT 0: you don't need to fully enter Carl's room to trigger the jumpscare, also facing towards Shrek's direction triggers it immediately (you can do all of this during the black screen)
• NIGHT 5: interacting with objects while talking: you can stretch the bars when main character is still talking after drinking the Shrek Juice (EDIT: this method actually seems to lose time over waiting next to the Shrek Juice container while drinking the can)

Thanks for the feedback! :) I've thought about that myself as well, since for example you can't move during black screens on mobile. My thoughts were that I'd keep them in the same category, except if a runner asks for them to be split. I will make the split on the leaderboards.

Also added milliseconds for runs under 5 minutes during the splitting of the boards :)

Hello everyone! Nice to see so many runners for the game. :)

I'm doing another rule change for the timing of the run. The timer now starts on the frame "Night 1" appears on the screen. I'm doing this change because finding the correct starting frame for mobile runs has been much more difficult than anticipated. Starting the timer on the Night 1 frame also makes it more similar to both the PC and mobile versions. I'm going to retime all the runs with this timing method and do the changes if needed, and moving forward this is what will be used!

You press + first, then the skip option with X appears!

Can Switch get added as an available console; I assume it would just be on the same leaderboard since there isn't much of a difference in the remaster besides voice acting?

Also: I did some TA grinding and was thinking if it's been thought if they'd get their own IL boards?

Not necessarily, it just seems the submitted runs aren't being verified even after multiple months

I also play the PS4 version on my PS5. I've submitted the runs under PS4 and state in the description that I use PS5. That also works :) (Though if PS5 was added I wouldn't complain :D)

NES added :)

I actually just did an All Feathers run in a time of 1:10:13, I could submit the run for that category if it's possible to add that one on the leaderboards :)

I'm planning on practicing the 100% run, and while playing the game I thought about the possibility for an All Feathers and/or All Dojos category. Any thoughts?