Before this becomes an issue, how will this community stand on the topic of emulation? As you can see by the channel behind this video: , the switch emulators are getting closer every day to being able to run odyssey. Will we flat out ban emulation, make a separate category, or allow it like other communities? I know this currently isn't a big issue, but I thought it would be good to discuss it before it became a big issue.

not saying these are fake runs, but this reminds me of

or even a second place run like this https://www.speedrun.com/mkw/run/z0e6j7em

and how would this run be any more legit? https://www.speedrun.com/mkw/run/zp0qndvm

@Frikkinfriks14 while i can see why you say it's less legit I don't understand why the wii u, with proven faster load times is still allowed to compete. If this is really an issue just make a catagory for emus like other games have.

I find it to be a bit of a turn off because time trials are much more competetive and require far less time than full game runs.

I agree with everyone here and why hasn't anyone adressed @ILOVESMB 's point? if load times are in issue, why are wii u and wii together and why don't we just make sub catagories?

I don't see why there can't be a time trial level leaderboards on this website. Whenever someone brought this up in the past they were told "stop" or referenced to another site. I feel like it would be far better if we could also have a time trial leaderboard on here. If not directly here maybe do like a category extension sort of thing and then make it there? I don't know a lot about this community so it may seem weird that i'm voicing my opinion without even one run submitted, but i find this to be a bit of a turn-off from speedrunning this game. Can someone explain why we can't have time trials recorded on this site?

Thinking about running this when I have some time. Wierd seeing just 1 run of this submitted.

We need community uproar to overrule this. I will gather support hopefully in the next 3 or so days so we can get it properly set up.

@RicoDexter and @blueYOSHI apparently it has been decided that there is no subcatagory for multiple controllers, it is simply stated similar to gold/normal oars. So anyone with a 1 controller WR won't show up once a 2 controller run is WR in essence.

I think all gems should have a multiplayer catagory if multiple controllers are allowed in it. Otherwise @blueYOSHI gets a huge advantage since he is god himself. And also u could control ur parnter in parnter party and 1 AI in all boards which ins't allowed for all boards.

@RicoDexter It is hard to control 4 controllers at once, other than paddling. It requires far more time and effort to do well with multiple controllers than it does to run with multiple people. However, i don't think multiple controllers should be allowed in all gems because that is flat out unfair.

Today marks the day that every catagory has at least 1 run! Let's get it!

every switch comes with 2 controllers @1upGirlXaltis

@1upGirlXaltis i think that 1p2c is only allowed in multiplayer catagories, if im wrong then i agree with you that they shouldn’t exist but only in singleplayer catagories.

its finally been completed yesterday, still waiting for verification

Blue Yoshi Made a better one, heres the old one for anyone who cared. Pretty much just stay to the right, it is fastest. It doesn’t matter which ballons u get, but if u get the toad ballon mingame or the card one, reset, it takes around 1.5 minutes to complete the minigame. For Normal, for ai 6 balloons is optimal, 5 for multiplayer. Ballons routing: Idk, dm me if u have best routing. For Hard, for ai 8 baloons is optimal, 7 for multiplayer. Thanks to https://www.speedrun.com/user/blueYOSHI for this: 8 ballons shouldn't be too hard if you don't bonk too much, 7 balloons is possible too but you literally can't bonk a single time! Balloons routing: Gentle Beginning: Take the first three balloons Cheep Cheep Schools: Take the second one Rapids Run: Take the second ballon (the others completely kill your speed from the boost panels, on the second one it ends immediately before anyway) Eye of the Needle: Take the first one and the notes one. In the maze, go the left path and skip the balloon. Beyond the Jungle: Take the first one if you need it, skip it if you have enough time. I don't take credit for the routing or the spreadsheet below explaining the math behind the potential fastest route, that goes to this guy: https://www.speedrun.com/user/RiceyBeMe Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTiimqcTWrOjnxtG4O1h-l9QAtIGyJOChLsXYJLpsq8/edit#gid=0

@Tboy a lot of all gems is just completion, not victory. Challenge Road and River Survival are the only 2 places you need to win in.

@blueYOSHI my man did the maths, its updated on guides. Ill put ur thing too.