Virginia, USAAnother Emulator rule set update
The following rules will be in effect on Feb 13th 2022
When streaming/recording a run you must be able to capture the window to show what emulator is being used. BizHawk is able to display the status bar below the game window. That must be displayed. DuckStation will has specific requirements below. You are able to run without showing the window. You must also state what emulator is being used when submitting your run.
Accepted Emulators: • XEBRA • BizHawk 2.7 or newer (Octoshock and Nymashock are allowed). • mednafen • DuckStation 0.1-4790-g50db81af or newer [Recommended]
Accepted Emulator on Mac: • OpenEmu
BizHawk Setup: Games can only run under the cue format. • Config > Speed/Skip > Audio Throttle If you're using the Octoshock core • PSX > Options • Select either mednafen mode option To verify that you are running with Audio Throttle enabled you must hit the increase/decrease speed keys [plus/minus] it will display a message on screen.
DuckStation Dedicated Rules: You must be using the NoGUI version, that means a keybind for Quick Menu is required. These settings can be set in the Qt version of DuckStation. You must show settings of the core settings before/after the run. Your settings must match this: Interface Menu (NoGUI Setting) • Pause On Menu: Disabled BIOS Settings • Fast Boot: Disabled Console Settings • 8MB RAM: Disabled • CPU Emulation - Execution Mode: Interpreter (Slowest) • No change in Clock Speed • CD-ROM Emulation to remain on defaults • Async Readahead: Disabled (Synchronous) • Read/Seek speedump set to None (Normal Speed) • Preload Image to RAM: Disabled • Apply Image Patches: Disabled Emulation Settings • Emulation Speed set to 100% • Runahead: Disabled Display Settings • Auto (Game Native) or 4:3 • Cropping overscan is allowed Enhancement Settings • Widescreen Hack: Disabled • Force NTSC Timings: Disabled • Recommended: Keep PGXP Disabled Custom settings are allowed for anything that isn't mentioned such as internal resolution scale. We would allow enabling "Show Enhancement Settings" to simplify the end user side, however some of the settings do not appear if they're enabled.
The following rules will be in effect on Feb 13th 2022
When streaming/recording a run you must be able to capture the window to show what emulator is being used. BizHawk is able to display the status bar below the game window. That must be displayed. DuckStation will has specific requirements below. You are able to run without showing the window. You must also state what emulator is being used when submitting your run.
Accepted Emulators: • XEBRA • BizHawk 2.7 or newer (Octoshock and Nymashock are allowed). • mednafen • DuckStation 0.1-4790-g50db81af or newer [Recommended]
Accepted Emulator on Mac: • OpenEmu
BizHawk Setup: Games can only run under the cue format. • Config > Speed/Skip > Audio Throttle If you're using the Octoshock core • PSX > Options • Select either mednafen mode option To verify that you are running with Audio Throttle enabled you must hit the increase/decrease speed keys [plus/minus] it will display a message on screen.
DuckStation Dedicated Rules: You must be using the NoGUI version, that means a keybind for Quick Menu is required. These settings can be set in the Qt version of DuckStation. You must show settings of the core settings before/after the run. Your settings must match this: Interface Menu (NoGUI Setting) • Pause On Menu: Disabled BIOS Settings • Fast Boot: Disabled Console Settings • 8MB RAM: Disabled • CPU Emulation - Execution Mode: Interpreter (Slowest) • No change in Clock Speed • CD-ROM Emulation to remain on defaults • Async Readahead: Disabled (Synchronous) • Read/Seek speedump set to None (Normal Speed) • Preload Image to RAM: Disabled • Apply Image Patches: Disabled Emulation Settings • Emulation Speed set to 100% • Runahead: Disabled Display Settings • Auto (Game Native) or 4:3 • Cropping overscan is allowed Enhancement Settings • Widescreen Hack: Disabled • Force NTSC Timings: Disabled • Recommended: Keep PGXP Disabled Custom settings are allowed for anything that isn't mentioned such as internal resolution scale. We would allow enabling "Show Enhancement Settings" to simplify the end user side, however some of the settings do not appear if they're enabled.
https://www.speedrun.com/bubsy3dfp/thread/3p55f new set of emulator rules. I trust these guys so will be applying them on 2/17/22 at the latest. If anyone has any feedback, feel free to drop it here.
This one may be subject to RNG. But a semi of not mostly consistent setup should be able to be found.
Its shockingly tight. You need to move pretty precisely or the officer on the far right wall will rotate and see you. But I have done it consistently.
not sure which of the mod hub threads is more appropriate so I'm posting this in both.
I dont understand why the moderator hub takes you back to the old review page if you have to adjust a setting. You cannot always expect every run to be submitted optimally, esp with regards to timing and console.
Could you guys make it so the 'bubble' info blocks are editable by clicking / double clicking on them instead of forcing a redirect in a new tab to an outdated page that then requires yet another redirect under a sub menu button?
not sure which of the mod hub threads is more appropriate so I'm posting this in both.
I dont understand why the moderator hub takes you back to the old review page if you have to adjust a setting. You cannot always expect every run to be submitted optimally, esp with regards to timing and console.
Could you guys make it so the 'bubble' info blocks are editable by clicking / double clicking on them instead of forcing a redirect in a new tab to an outdated page that then requires yet another redirect under a sub menu button?
Jaypin is unbanned and has already started submitting runs again. https://www.speedrun.com/user/Jaypin88
yes, you can find the link to the left under the game image
Check out our website for some guides and base yours off that. Join our discord and discuss with us your thought process, routes, and ideas. Building a guide is a team effort and is rather hard to do alone or with little experience. Excited to see Survive runs from you.
Duckstation Required settings for SDS:
Console Settings CPU Clock Speed Control Disabled. Read Speedup: None (Double Speed) Use Read Thread (Asynchronous) Unchecked
Emulation Settings Runahead: Disabled
Display Settings Show Messages Checked (if a savestate is used, we'll know) VSync Unchecked
Enhancement Settings Force NTSC Timings (60hz-on-PAL) Unchecked (PAL speed should be PAL speed and not adjusted by the emulator)
All DuckStation runs must have some kind of input viewer displayed, such as one of the following:
Built-in input viewer (Settings > Display Settings > Show Controller Input)
3rd party input viewer (Such as gamepadviewer.com)
Webcam pointed at your controller
Thanks to highnrich for the provided footage below, which used the above settings from mgs1
Duckstation SDS - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTcpCyvPk7hsUM9msj4ibW-b-3rThKep/view Duckstation FDS - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1exbzGN1owxZXZrRX3a135y33A_J5_Cay/view
Here is a document timing loads from assorted runs. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XIjNN13JzOMbX3wKnu5pivaUUeUpUa4dZOQdue7ib_w/edit?usp=sharing
Based on loading times from theses videos, which you can see in the above google sheets form, I find no reason to deny Duckstation 2021-05-23 or later SDS as a viable emulator. However, at current 7-27-21, FDS is unaccurate and noncompetitive without adjusting the settings considerably.
Unless, however, we would like to make a duckstation fds category or separate all emulators out from console runs all together, either keeping or still separating duckstation fds.
The alternative to banning Duckstation FDS is to allow it with the following rules
Console Settings:
- Enable Clock Speed Control (Overclocking/Underclocking): 600% (203.21MHz) - You can run this lower if need be on lower end systems. CD-ROM Emulation:
- Read Speedup: 2x (Quad Speed)
- Seek Speedup: 10x
In addition, bizhawk appears to produce excessive lag and is being unmarked as recommended barring updated settings or me getting a better computer to test it on.
