All the changes have been made, and that's that. This is something that should have been done in the first place. Doesn't matter if DSDA is old and outdated, or if you have to post it on Doomworld, that's how it's been done for years. DSDA is the site for runs utilizing demos, and this is the site for console ports/Unity/Homebrew, etc. Again, I'm sorry if this is inconvenient for you, but it really isn't as big of a deal as it's being made to be.

DSDA is not that difficult. I'm not the biggest fan of it either, but I'm not gonna sit here and say it's a pain to navigate because it absolutely is not. There's a search bar and a tab for iWAD's right on the top of the page for you to easily see, and every time I've ever needed a WAD for whatever reason, DSDA has been a godsend for finding what I need. Finding categories/WAD's on there is about as simple as finding them on here, if not, easier for some.

While I know that nobody here is deliberately being disrespectful, and are just voicing their opinions, let's try to be careful on how we tread here. Please be respectful. I welcome discussion, but please refrain from hostility.

Unity does not have a no monsters feature, unfortunately.

@Quills DSDA may be outdated, but it doesn't change anything. It's still a site that hosts demos and source port runs, and has done so much longer than this site. Regardless of how you feel about their site, that's where source port runs should be submitted if it's not a E1-Ex category.

If people still want to submit to this site, then just either run E1-Ex, or switch to the Unity port, there's an entire community based around that and the console ports that most of you probably don't even know about.

And no, this would not kill Doom speedrunning. Most people submit to DSDA, or Unity, not these boards.

If anything, this organizes things. Full game runs cannot be hosted on DSDA because lack of being able to record demos for them. HERE we can have them because this site is for videos. IL's and episode runs complicate things because someone could appear to have WR on this site, only for someone else to have WR on DSDA. At that point, it just becomes confusing so it's better to not host IL's, episodes, or anything that can utilize demos on this site, since DSDA can handle those. In a perfect world we could host them all here, but that's just not feasible with the thousands upon thousands of runs that exist on DSDA.

@jwel I disagree. DSDA exists for Doom speedruns on Source ports. SRC is mainly used for modern and console ports of Doom. DSDA has existed long before this site did, so there's no reason to integrate those runs to here. This site for source ports should only be used for categories that can't utilize demos such as full game runs. IL's, episodes, Doom II, and Final Doom should not exist on this site for the reason of DSDA hosting demos for them already.

If people want to run Doom and submit here, The Unity port exists, and is much more beginner friendly.

I messaged 4shock about it already. Hopefully he will either become active, or make me a moderator.

Will this be a thing? I found a good amount of skips, a lot being kinda useless due to this being discovered. Not that that's the reason why I want it, but I'd rather run the game NOT using that trick, as it's not that fun having the camera in the air not being able to see where I'm going.

I don't mean delete every board and just leave episodes, I mean delete them entirely. There's 0 reason for them to exist on speedrun.com when they have their own website, and when Unity exists here.

If you ask me, those boards need to be removed entirely. There's no point to them existing on this site since they have their own website.

But to answer what you said, Tezur0 wasn't the only one in charge of those leaderboards. With him gone, series moderation for classic doom is left to me and Meta, and those leaderboards are left to 3 other people, one of which is still active. So a need for more moderators on it, is not necessary unless Cyberdemon (the only active mod on there) goes inactive. In that case I'll most likely take it, and remove them entirely, that is if someone doesn't get to it first. (not that I'm in a race for it I truly don't care all that much)

Google: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uiDODYnsXGLKynfyHHnKBD6UZrphB9zh/view?usp=drive_link

IDgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/puredux

Honestly I thought there was more to it when I first initially commented, and I wanted to wait til I got home to do research on it to make sure it's what I was thinking, and there isn't actually more than I thought. It's pretty simple...dead simple, one could say kappa.

Basically, this glitch occurs when 2 Arachnotrons die at the same time. It's documented here - https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/MAP07:_Dead_Simple_(Doom_II)

That’s known. I’m at work at the moment but I can explain how it works when I get home if someone else doesn’t by that time.

@CERBActual I checked recent rejected runs and found one from you, with this rejection description: "If this is meant to be an IL run, you submitted to the wrong category, please submit to the correct one but before doing so please trim the video down to only the run. We do not accept 10+ min videos for runs less than a min long."

Here is the description you put in for the submission: Original video (unedited). All levels included, not meant to be a "Full Run" however. Meant to submit individual levels, particularly for the final level E1M8 PHOBOS ANOMALY time being 00:48.690 All times for each level showed in the video are included in the video description though. There were several which were new records but the E1M8 was best

Video:

There are a few things wrong here;

1. If it's an IL, please trim the video down. It's not necessary for a 10 min video for a 1 min run, it being at the start of the video would be one exception, but when it's smack in the middle of the video and we have to go through footage to find it (regardless of how long) that can get tedious, that's why I stated that. So to prevent people from doing it all the time, we require it to just have footage of the run and nothing else. A few attempts is fine but 5 or more is not necessary. (not that this is the case, just an example) If you are unsure on how to go about trimming your runs, feel free to join our discord and we can help guide you with it, but the basic answer is use a program called Shotcut. It's an editing software that is free.
2. You submitted it to a full game category. We don't move runs to the correct categories for people. That is not our job unless directly asked and or for a specific reason (category changes, leaderboard editing, etc. (or if someone simply wants their run removed) If you are unsure of how to submit to the IL leaderboards, there is a drop-down tab right below the games name that says "Level Leaderboard" click that and find the level you want to submit to.
3. We also don't accept IL runs from full game attempts. That alone is a rejection.
4. We would never reject a run based off the title of your video. I know this wasn't mentioned on this thread, but I saw you mention it on another thread. Unsure if you meant us, but the title doesn't matter, though for tougher cases, it could help us identify better WHAT the run is that we are watching.

To respond to this bit: "You basically told me I put something in a spot I thought it went but you cackled and spat it back at me telling me to think about it harder if that's the best I thought....."

Not a clue where that is coming from. It certainly wasn't from me. If it was from another mod, I very much apologize for that. If you want to discuss that further you can DM me about it.

TLDR; I'm not even sure if you are even talking about this run at all, what you said here matches your rejection reason, so honestly I'm assuming. The intention is NOT to put you on blast here, only to help you if you misunderstood the reasoning behind why your run was rejected. Please feel free to contact me if you need anything further.

@CERBActual Are you referring to one of our mods saying this? Or just speaking in general?

@WMJ Solved.

Or is it correct? Lol the other category says Sheol so I assumed it was a typo I haven’t made it that far into the game yet myself so idk for sure.

Under misc, new file. In the rules it says “Sheon” instead of Sheol.

Unity refers to the engine the game was made in. All ports that were released on PS4/PS5, all Xbox One's/Series', iOS, Android, and PC are the Unity port. (Excluding XBLA on Xbox which will say "Arcade" next to it if it's XBLA) Join our Discord server for more info or if you have more questions. The forums here are not a viable place to ask questions, you'll receive a much faster response if asked on Discord.

@CERBActual Yes. That’s the bug itself. The menu is active though invisible during gameplay.

@CERBActual 1) It wasn't him doing it, the menu was bugged.

It's fine to feel that way, it's your board. But at the end of the day you are losing more runners by not having them as categories, whether all of you see it as a "bad version" or not.. Maybe not very many runners would pick it up I'll give you that, but a few runners are better than none at all.