ValhallaSpeedrun tournament? What exactly is this even.
I could make a fake run right now, tell you it's fake, but because I faked it so well you would accept it?
That's the right approach. Play the games you wanna play.
Your approach is wrong. Anybody can post an LP of some lesser known game and call it world record. So what? If your goal is to just pile up WRs in games no one plays, are they really world records? The title itself suggests that competition exists.
@diggitydingdong I'm not sure what the fuck you're on about, but I'm bored with helping people out and slapping down cheaters so I won't post again just for you.
@pingjizhuanjia do you see a Juzi87 run on this leaderboard?
There's rules put in place that you didn't follow as well as common sense. I only clicked one of those links but what I watched was very stutter-y. Maybe they're legit, but you're going to have a hard time proving that.
It's not a bot, just a cheater whose first language isn't English
And I've seen leaderboards trashed in the past thanks to carelessly slapping bad mods onto the leaderboard. Sometimes a mod has to hold off on just giving mod to anyone that asks. At the same time they gave verifier status to a sketchy mod so idk, sounds like a mess, good luck.
Correct. I'm not about to dive hours into BS to see who or what is right or wrong, but hostility isn't needed. Mods are real people with lives and life gets in the way sometimes.
People need to learn to chill, it's just a leaderboard, but I guess name calling is cool
https://www.speedrun.com/cvohko requesting CV OHKO to be listed as a rom hack
@MrFatDoinks You're off to a bad start with that "thread not found" link. And from what I've seen @SaiyanGamingz isn't to be trusted in general.
Edit: but the fact he was added as a verifier at all shows that maybe there is some laziness on the super mods' end.
It's called speedrun.com for a reason. Not "slow as fuck trying to get a slightly higher number than someone else".com
It's not like I'm going to shrug my shoulders if a run gets passed me. I'm going to reject it. You've stated yourself that catching every run isn't possible. I take it as seriously as anyone should and I try to maintain legitimacy on the boards I mod, at any level, bad run or best run. It's not the end of the world if one got past ya, just reject it and move on.
Harsh language like "trash mentality" isn't really appreciated. You can talk to me like an adult. I didn't say I only care about top times. Yes, I take top times more seriously, but that doesn't mean I just auto verify any run that pops up. I've stopped stolen runs in the past that certainly weren't competitive, but one also got past me before, because short of comparing it to every single run ever posted online, I'm going to have a hard time proving it's stolen.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about. I don't even remember verifying their run, but it was a bad, 150+ rank run that I just timed properly, saw it was a finished run and moved on.
You can't catch all runs, cheated or stolen. Check any popular leaderboard. Probably a fake or stolen run in there. This is why I take the trust aspect so seriously when we start talking about top times, but a 20 minute run of an 11.5 minute game? I'm not going to sweat if they get past me.
Depends on how they go about it. Do they steal the video and crop it in anyway? Going over parts of the vid with their overlay? If they try to obscure the video in anyway, they're not to be trusted from the start. Is their account new? Probably a red flag already. Is there a timer in the vid? Is it even properly timed if there is? While a timer shouldn't even be required it's important to note that it can 'help' with verification. Simply put, if they don't know how to time their run, they don't know how to run the game. People that steal vids will often just copy and paste the time the other runner listed (which is convenient if the runner they stole from timed their run wrong, cause it automatically helps prove the vid is stolen).
People that steal footage are much easier to shoot down than say, cheaters. Reason being is because they most likely know absolutely nothing about the game. So, start asking them questions. Ask them if they know how to do X, Y, or Z. Ask them if they understand the mechanics of the game they're even claiming to run. Having passed that, ask for a proof check. Honestly it's current year and we can stream from our phones, I don't see why it's so hard to pull off a stream. Even if it's just to show yourself attempting certain hard tricks only a speedrunner of that game would do.
If they try to be difficult, they're most likely a fraud. That's not to say that all people who only post youtube vids as proof, have no social media links, and never stream are frauds, they just make it harder on themselves. But if you confront someone with doubt, start asking questions, like "do you even run this?" And you're met with hostility, they're probably not legit. Ultimately YOU as a moderator have to make the call to accept or reject their run. I personally would reject a run if someone posted a competitive time that I had any reason to doubt and the runner simply tuned me out, waiting for me to accept it.
