These are meme categories and will be made Misc.

Totally down for making them a thing, but PLEASE be careful not to flood the category count haha

I'm considering running this game, barring the whole "need to get a 3DS capture card" thing :[

I have the same questions as you, and have been thinking about them for a while. Unfortunately, I couldn't think of much either :/ IMO, if we want to keep things open, we can consider these categories:

1. Any% >> To the credits (timing up for debate), to keep with the spirit of SDA definitions
2. Epilogue% >> Finish the post-game story
3. All Connections >> I doubt people would run this but you never know
4. 100% >> All Connections + All Dungeons + All Treasures
5. Max% >> 100% + All Meowth Theatre Dungeons + All Maxed Skills

Max% is probably not needed (and skill maxing is pretty ridiculous), because of an interesting thing: A) Any dungeon that has been explored counts as being completed ("NEW" tag removed), regardless of mission completion, failure, escape, etc.

I'm personally neutral on WM codes, because removing the RNG for PSMD can be both a good or bad thing. If allowed, I'd easily take Guiding Wand x20 and the basics, plus a few TM's if needed.

Character select probably shouldn't be included in the timing, but that's just me.

EDIT: Some considerations. => At low power you may escape any dungeon and keep all items. Will this be allowed?

We could consider Glitchless and No Major Skips.

Only issue is how many people would run it, this game basically a mash-simulator. What do you all think?

Heads up that the following categories are to be subject to complete deletion once MR30 is attainable:

Mastery Ranks 1-10 Mastery Ranks 11-20 Mastery Ranks 21-30

You may discuss the idea of category deletions here. The reason why this is the case is that it is redundant to split categories into chunks if a speedrun is generally about the entire process from start to end. The reason why the main category was split in the first place was to facilitate friendly competition and strategy-making as the game evolved over time, and once MR30 hits, there will be enough discussion over all tests to make having separate categories unnecessary.

Making these categories Miscellaneous only bloats the game's category list on this site; personally, I strongly suggest against going this route.

Questions or concerns? Please post below! We have time, so this will be stickied for quite a while.

Locked from further posts. Category solidified.

Updated boss lists. This sound good?

Sounds good, I can agree with most of these points.

For U18 Bosses: Mutalist Alad V is likely to be removed (I really don't want to add it in either). Should we make the theme of U18 "keyless bosses"? In this case, we omit Lephantis and Mutalist Alad V. Discuss. I am totally fine with this change.

For All Bosses: Sometimes a run does not need to be runner-friendly to be a category. Case in point - YuGiOh Forbidden Memories. The issue with Warframe is that bosses may be constantly added, so how do you dictate which bosses comprise this list? The goal is to avoid being too arbitrary with our choices, especially when the category name implies every possible boss in the game. We can differentiate between FIELD BOSSES and your normal BOSSES, if this is the case. What do you think?

If you are a Warframe boss speedrunner, YOU NEED TO HELP SOLIDIFY THIS LIST. Post a comment below with your suggestions and ideas for others to discuss.

Current Boss List for U18 to be determined, but the following list is up for debate. The theme for this update: FULLY ACCESSIBLE.

1. Captain Vor
2. Jackal
3. Vay Hek
4. The Sergeant
5. Alad V
6. Sargus Ruk
7. Tyl Regor
8. Hyena Pack (he's cool like that)
9. Ambulas
10. Lech Kril
11. Kela De Thaym
12. Raptor
13. Captain Vor + Lech Kril
14. [NEW!!!] J3 Golem

These rules are in place to decide the bosses: (A) The run must be theoretically possible at any point in time, so random encounter bosses are banned. (B) Update Boss lists are to represent the major bosses of the update, not field bosses. (C) Bosses must be freely accessible without resource farming.

Reasons for new boss considerations: [Lephantis] Keylocked. [J3 Golem] Added in a new quest during U17. As long as the boss fight is replayable, this is easily a candidate. [Mutalist Alad V] It is possible to access this boss by farming up coordinates through Infested Survival missions. However, this is NOT runner-friendly, and hence is not a part of the list.

In addition, we add these bosses for All Major Bosses 17) Lephantis 18) Mutalist Alad V 19) Phorid

We are changing the category to "All Major Bosses" to omit unpopular field bosses. See http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Boss . The only rules: (A) The boss must be somehow accessible. RNG is allowed to dictate this. (B) The boss must be killable in a solo or coop setting. (C) The boss is not a field boss.

Apologies for late reply. In any case, I'll have to redirect you towards the SDA thread linked above, because I don't know how to do this for Macs either. :[

We'll need to start centralizing all the discussion because we've already discovered this over on the SDA thread: https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/undertale.html

I've made a sticky thread for future reference. We're still not quite sure why this room gives us double speed though... Any possible thoughts? :P

BackSapper edit: We have a Discord server that a majority of the chat happens on now. New to the community and want to get some tips and tricks from us, or just want to chat and hang out? Drop on by! https://discord.me/UTSpeedRuns

We already have an SDA thread about this game: https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/undertale.html

Please use the SDA thread for spearheading ¤¤new¤¤ discoveries regarding the categories. If you are curious about old discoveries or need a better explanation on why certain strats are used, please post in a new thread here.

e.g. "I found a new potential glitch or exploit! Where should I post it?" - SDA. e.g. "I need explanations regarding this point in a Genocide run. Where should I post it?" - These Forums.

Any questions/concerns? Post below!

Laptop with an NVIDIA 870M. There are certain parts that run slower for me when I am streaming, which causes some time loss, but otherwise this only amounts to about 5-10 sec. over the entire run (which is really significant imho).

You can revive and still get the No Herb Medal, to clarify things up.

Natalia seems to be slower.