Also @The_A_Drain, PAL60 is literally the same as NTSC, and all PS4/XB1 runs are exactly the same timing. PAL50 is only in speed/timer conversion in the PS1 games as well as the GCN ports of RE2,3, and CVX. You are not running out of options. Literally any version of REmake will be able to compete. GCN/Wii must be set to 60hz mode though.

Fair enough on the stairskating point. I actually didn’t know that when DS was allowed back that people agreed remapping to analog should be allowed. Shows you how little I’ve paid attention. That being said, a merger is too blunt of a method. Personally I would wish for more people to run doorskip though because I think shorter run and less time spent waiting = more incentive for new people to try.

I would think the best way to encourage it is to make it the “default” category people see on the landing page. What is everyone’s thoughts on that? I mean essentially nothing would change on the leaderboards, ruling, or times, just the default view would be doorskip.

Hey everyone-

So early on in the game's lifespan on speedrun.com, doorskip was called for separation because it was a mod.

A while later, it was voted back in.

Now that it's voted back in (and frankly, I think that running the game with doors is pretty pointless when we have a mod that allows for skipping doors altogether without any kind of real error) should we merge the categories?

In my opinion, the only thing really detrimental could be runners using SSD vs. HDD, but I think the only thing really making non-doorskip runs unpopular is simply the fact it's still treated like a mod when all it's doing is removing an annoying animation you have to sit through. Most everyone's HDDs and load the game fast enough by now to make any SSD shit a non-issue.

Tactically, there's no real advantages either aside from resetting rooms to get certain zombies out of the way (which costs an upward of 7 seconds anyway each) but optimally you wouldn't even bother.

Thoughts? Personally I think it would make the boards a lot cleaner and encourage people who are turned off by door animations to run the game with the mod if it were to become the "default category".

If everyone thinks it should be separated, can we discuss the idea of moving Doorskip to being the default category? Because it's literally the same route for everything.

No, what is happening here is a fundamental misunderstanding of what "segmented" means. Segmented means that he abused saves to restart each segment until he got it perfect. He did NOT. He was forced to upload his run in chunks because YouTube limited uploads to 10 minutes at a time back in 2008. If you bothered to check his video description, you will see he also split the run into larger chunks for Archive.org, which further corroborates my logic.

https://archive.org/details/DinoCrisis2_5330

"SPLIT INTO PARTS" DOES NOT MEAN "SEGMENTED." "Segmented" is a term that started AT SPEED DEMOS ARCHIVE and has a very specific meaning in speedrunning nomenclature. It all-but doesn't happen anymore because very few people run segmented runs as competition (TAS does what Segmented does, only better) but SDA had split videos into parts multiple times for one reason or another due to technical limitations. But those were denoted as "in x number of parts".

If you watch them back to back in the playlist, all of the audio syncs up, especially the parts where the audio clips out and clips in when the next segment loads from the YouTube playlist. Tell me, on a system with variable loads due to mechanical disc reading such as a PS2, is the music going to sync up perfectly if you record two identical runs side to side? The answer is "no". There is audio buzzing in the video which would not be present if it was on emulator. The run was not spliced together.

That would mean that the only reason to reject the run as WR is to demonstrate the things he did were impossible, and nothing he did was impossible. He would have practiced a lot with savestates before recording on a real console, perhaps. He even failed the keypad puzzle, if his goal was to cheat the RNG, why would he let that pass? His execution was tight as well, not totally flawless, but very within human limitations, and he knew how to anticipate all of the dino spawns on top of having clear linework.

Same with his DC1 any% run which is now apparently also "segmented". Segmented doesn't mean "in parts for the sake of technical limitations", it is a way of playing the game, and that is not how Luciano played the game. So either prove "what is weird" about the run, or accept it.

This run is only in parts because it was uploaded at a time when YouTube only accepted 10 minute videos.

Moreover, all the parts sync up if you add them all together. No saves were used.

Technically, this run should be the world record on console. Consequently, why is there an arbitrary ruling that the run itself cannot be submitted when the videos themselves do not omit any part of the run?

I can tell you it is real because LucianoRX ran various Capcom titles on an actual PS2 console for SDA (which had rigorous video submission standards) and the audio hum in the video is exactly like it sounds when you play on a real console. The videos are not spliced together.

Please add this run to the leaderboard.

First up @WoweeTheDoggo thank you for bringing these to our attention. Many of us are modding other games so the runs are simply “passed through” a lot of the time. Clearly there is a hole here and it needs to be fixed (though most of us are very busy). If there is no obvious sign of cheating, we shouldn’t delete them, but we should retime them instead. Clearly, the runners didn’t understand the rules for timing, and not rejecting the videos didn’t help with that.

If you would be willing to assist in retiming, that’d be great. We’re going to need to check it ourselves.

We are reluctant to pass your run because we believe you cheated.

As you can see, there's a magnum when you open the locker, then you picked up a grenade launcher.

Find someone who can speak English if you cannot. We do not know anyone who speaks Chinese.

Yes, that would mean that your other runs need to be removed. A LOT of runs go through the classic RE leaderboards and sometimes things get passed through. We discussed banning PAL about two years ago.

PAL is banned because it is slowed down to 50hz speeds and therefore can't be compared to other runs that run at the correct speed. PAL versions consequently also have a slowed down IGT. A far inferior PAL RE2 run can go neck and neck IGT with an optimized NTSC run despite not being faster in real time. Due to how easy it is to actually get NTSC and that TVs that accept 60Hz are common in EUR, there is no reason to make a separate leaderboard for it either; there are too many leaderboards.

Emulator NTSC is allowed, and you can also buy the JPN version to run on PSP and capture through composite/component. If you have a 60Hz display (I imagine most EUR flatscreens accept NTSC resolutions now) and a modded console you could also just burn a disc or import.

So far the stance is neutral on removing it but nobody wants to merge. I'll wait for more people to chip in their opinion but so far the correct action seems to be "do nothing".

It is my personal opinion it doesn't kill New Game if there are other difficulties that are radically different from Easy and Load Game.

I am told that for the Easy Mode and Load game leaderboards, the only actual difference is that you don't have to pick up the Magnum and Bruce is switched with Fongling's character model.

If so, then there's no reason to even have two leaderboards for it, is there? I created the Load Game board without any understanding that it wasn't that different from Easy Mode speedruns.

On higher difficulties, Normal and Hard, the damage values are ramped up and supplies are scarce, so I can see a reason to keep those separated, but what do you guys think about merging Easy and Load Game?

God damn dude, congratulations. I figured this is where you would be right now, don't ask me how.

It's great to hear from you again after all these years and I'm happy to hear you're putting the 110% you gave everything else I've seen you do into the things that are important to you now.

I should have considered you mentioned having a Breaker Pro disc a long time ago. I thought the SCPH-77001 you had was modded for some reason. I no longer have the uncut video you sent me unfortunately (or maybe it's on another HDD) but I finally found a PS2 that loads as fast as yours.

As for the 4 plug route, well. I think the reason we don't do 4 plug anymore is because avoiding the club key, avoiding the item box, and getting the library plug early actually balances it out and is safer at the cost of ~2sec overall.

damn, i was hoping i would finally determine the cause. i'm less interested in knowing for speed and more interested in knowing for technical reasons because PSP loads PS1 the fastest overall.

you remember which modchip it was at least? in the event the modchip has some kind of influence, i want to install chips in various units to try it out.

also, given that you're here, if you get the itch and want to run it again, hit me up and i will get you caught up on streaming stuff. lotta shit's changed since SDA.

That being said, trying to get on par with your run is a monstrous task. People couldn't get close to it for years but I just now discovered it was because you were lucky enough to have a version of PlayStation driver that got patched out when people installed their Network Driver discs.

It's funny, like a time machine almost, you've moved on with your life, and I'm still here trying to beat your run 7 years later.

Fuck me running, you're actually here

Trevor what's your version of PlayStation Driver on the system that you used for your Claire A run on PS2? PLEASE for the love of christ tell me you still have that system.

This comment has been redacted by the moderator team because it contained offensive slurs.

@zgl Please put yourself in my shoes for a minute.

Twitch is my fulltime job. Imagine what happens when someone comes up to your place of work to try to stir up unrelated drama, try to get people who are watching you to care about said drama (spoiler alert, it didn't actually work), and generally get in the way of me trying to do my job, which is to entertain my viewers? I take it very personally when that happens. I'm sure you can't imagine what that's like because streaming and speedrunning is a hobby for you. Consequently, that means I have to keep my fucking head down. I made that mistake previously when I got upset that Psarthex was being a dick to Punchy and I paid for it, but it's gone on long enough.

I'm not going to defend myself over the things I did because the bottom line is, Psarthex is a literal sociopath and I want as little to do with him as possible. He wants to fucking take jabs at me at every possible opportunity, and bring drama between us where it doesn't belong, such as my fucking stream, where I have banned him because I don't want to fucking talk to him there or even anywhere else.

That being said, so the fuck what if I don't want to watch his video, that's why I asked other people in that chat who were moderators if they'd do it. That's why there are multiple moderators. This, by the way, was after he sent me $5 on paypal while I was live to subtly play the "Well you're not doing your job" card. He wanted to send a message to me that he was not beyond bringing drama to my job. As a matter of fact, I refunded the money he sent me because he could have initiated a chargeback and cost me another $20 if he wanted to.

Consequently, if he is trying to stir up unrelated drama in my stream, as he has done by getting his viewers to come to my stream to harrass me about it once before, I don't want him around me.

I'm convinced by now that Psarthex gets off on being in positions where people can't ignore him because he wants to deliberately make things difficult and is not interested in making them better. It's working, because here I am, but the bottom line is, I don't have time to deal with that shit.

As for that other guy who came asking about moderator privileges which SOMEBODY clipped, once again, that happened on the same day Psarthex sent me that donation. You'll forgive me if MAYBE I was a little suspicious that maybe some people were deliberately trying to sabotage me. I would have just banned him, but I wanted to give him the benefit of a doubt. Even more interesting, I have to wonder who was lurking in my stream to clip that exact moment, and why they were there to clip it. They went back for the timestamp in an otherwise frankly unremarkable section of gameplay and to went to show it to their friends afterall.

That being said, grats, you're a moderator now, you deal with him. RE7 is a big game, way bigger than any board I've moderated, and frankly, not everyone is going to like everything you do. I've come to accept that, so can you?

i've determined that the most likely reason Trevor and AndehX's times are really fast is because of the version of PlayStation Driver (the official Sony firmware that interprets PS1 games). My loads were equivocal to AndehX's on PlayStation Driver 1.11. I got 1:09:45 in one very very shitty try. I will be running Claire A soon to see if I can go neck and neck with Trevor's time. If there is a way to downgrade the firmware to allow the game to run correctly we should consider allowing it.

@Rossrossy Well, generally when new leaderboards are created, (in my personal experience) we don't really envision those kinds of scenarios in advance before opening them up. In literally NO leaderboard I've helped run, I've only mostly dealt with missing footage and missing audio. Nobody's ever played music in the background of their runs on any video I've moderated, and I didn't see a need to put that there until I noticed a large influx of runs which added their own soundtrack. We should be able to define this shit very early on so as to not step on peoples' toes, but it's difficult to do so when the categories and rulings more or less have to be done on the fly when the game is released and hundreds of people are submitting runs. Nobody even thinks about video integrity until there's an epidemic of shit.

As FurryWulfz/Liv just said, audio is just as important to detecting any potential issues with a run as video. Especially on Twitch, where peoples' computers and internet connections are being relied on to make hard copies of their videos (nobody records locally like they need to and they just make Twitch highlights and rely on those for preserving their shit instead), so there's always SOMETHING missing. Nobody knows how to do it any other way, because Twitch inadvertently simplified the archival of long videos (including speedruns), and I came from a place where you needed to have EVERYTHING almost completely intact (just raw video and audio) to even be able to submit to a leaderboard. Consequently, I've gotten more lenient on runs being submitted in that regard, because shit just straight up happens, but I still maintain that I need to hear the audio in sync with the game and that there be no interruption of the video (or the run) aside from minor framedrops no more than 3-5 seconds in length. But said framedrops are 100% because of internet streaming hiccups and not because of the computer itself; local recording through OBS literally eliminates all of those issues.

I can't expect everyone to be a content creator, but I also think that a certain standard needs to be held in order for games and communities to get the reputation they deserve from the outside. It's just weird to open a WR run for a huge game and have the whole thing be plastered with memes and music. It's one thing for the person to be talking about their life, but when you have WR you're actually representing the rest of the community with your video because you're in the #1 slot.

I've been in the speedrunning community for a very very long time and most people still don't understand that the actual material "record" (or WR) is the video itself and not the number on the result screen or the split file. That's really what I've fought for at the end of the day.

@Psarthex if you have a problem with the person, maybe block them instead of creating a witch hunt scenario. i did no such thing, and neither has punchy. i personally have no desire to engage you outside of this very forum which is why i blocked you and banned you from my Twitch channel. If you had no desire to come to my channel to bring that shit to my doorstep, then it doesn't make sense to say nasty things to me in a DM for not letting you talk about it. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, you had every intention to try to stir up drama in a place that doesn't concern you, and which concerns my personal livelihood, which is what makes me angry. What happens on speedrun.com is not a part of my stream.

In a few words, my experience with psarthex is like this:

I told Punchy to reject the video on Twitter and I DID use the phrase "buttbaby" to describe it. Punchy was right, the video violates Twitch TOS and encourages harassment, whether it is a WR or not. He then took my tweets and intentionally misrepresented them to say "Carcinogen bans runs for personal reasons", at which point he had several people come to my stream to talk shit about me.

Twitch is my full-time job and my primary source of income. He sent users to harass me about leaderboard stuff to try to incite drama in my chat while I was working. He tried to bring it to my doorstep out of petty vindictiveness. He literally attempted to put me on the spot in front of my viewers by sending people (who aren't even involved) to my stream to try to get me to talk about it and look bad. It failed gloriously because it was only like 3 people, but the point is that it happened at all.

He then messaged me on Twitch complaining that I didn't come to his Twitch chat to discuss it. It is my belief that the discussion should be here and ONLY here, not some random Twitch chat where outside users who don't even speedrun RE7 can influence the conversation and he can just clown me the entire time. I'm not stupid enough to waste my time on petty bullshit like that.

I blocked him on Twitter to remove his ability to retweet me so people would quit coming to my stream, and blocked him on Twitch to keep him out of my chat and out of my work. Moderation duties at Speedrun.com don't require me to discuss leaderboard stuff on my stream, mostly because it's not the time or place to do so, but more importantly, it is not the content of my stream.

Psarthex aimed to make the #1 spot on the leaderboard (as in the first thing people will click when they come to the page of the most popular RE speedgame) about DRAMA AND HARASSMENT OF ANOTHER USER. He goaded users to harass others. The shit psarthex has put me through in the last 3 days over this crap is not acceptable and I never even talked to the guy aside from one forum post months ago.