Also I've managed to prove that i didn't speed up my leaps in my run with tiggz's method, which is 100% accurate all the time. " but tac says sommetimes he gets good leaps in his fr 42 wtff and he doesnt slab boost o-o" wtf does that even mean? I have good ping rn because I'm on holiday in WESTERN europe, meaning my actual ping is 100-130, and again I beat my own run with a meh run in a public lobby .-. There are strats to leaping that you just don't know, stop being so salty... Paris does the leap strats on fr (idk if he actually knows them) and gets leaps that are as fast as those in my latest 42...

This is the problem with speedruns that need to be in a multiplayer setting. Everything is biased based on ping or hardware or something else. This is like probably like one of the only games that are actually like this, because this ping manip thing is basically the entire run. Instead of having a smaller DE server like many suggested / plan to do, I think instead we should invest into making singleplayer versions of this. That way, there is no bias for leaps, everyone can do the same leaps, and maybe we can even add in a proper igt which will work because it isn't in a multiplayer setting. Because honestly, fuck that OP leaps are a thing

Mineplex doesn't release their plugins, as they are custom plugins. We would have to do our best to duplicate the leap system as best as possible. Not to even mention things like Disruptor and Digger...

Digger should be easy xD Disruptor is ehhh, but I feel like commands with setblock or shit like that should not be difficult. Leaps are the only thing that should be a challenge

Also IIRC people already have small servers or smth so idk

lol feel free to do so fatty ;))))))))

I don't care enough to do it myself and also don't have any modding expertise xD

kk

We should just create a penalty for overly powerful leaps, it would be judged whether a leap is "overly powerful" or not by Mods upon verification...it would be useful in the sense that we would be making times more realistic & fair for the entire community, and now that we've experienced this situation with two people, I feel it would be well worth considering - as having overly powerful leaps has proven to be a hugely unfair advantage for those who possess leaps of such power. I feel this idea would require much greater planning & such, however, I feel this has been sat on too long without a fully thought out & logical conclusion.

I feel like no matter what that idea will end up having a bias to it unless the definition of a powerful leap is super strict

I like ravioli

Then you should penalize all th and lc runs with ~100ms ping (because my leaps are slower on those maps), penalize all digger runs with ping based shortcuts (ones with fences, ones that take 2 quick digs like the one in the ship on pbay, sc after left lava on skylands, etc.)

1. Your leaps aren't slower on Through Hell, they're actually faster...I timed & compared them. Not sure for LC.
2. Digger runs should NOT be penalised as they're fully possible even with higher ping...even the quick ones. I've made the short cuts mentioned in your post perfectly fine when on EU with 150+ ping. It makes almost no difference when compared to low pinged executions. Nice try though, tac.

I like ravioli to

same

Should I lock this thread?

Don't think it should be locked yet. It's still someone active & relevant.

But it's necroposting at this point

150 ping is nothing for digger, you have no right to compare yourself to me with that ping unless you have 250+... I get stuck for at least 0.5 on those shortcuts because of the dig delay, I never said they were impossible... If you want to penalize my leaps that DEFINITELY BOOST ME BY A SECOND then obviously penalize the digger runs because they obviously boost good pingers way more than my leaps boost me... Want evidence of this?

Btw I wrote a super long vulgar rant but I removed it xd

1. 150 ping is A LOT for the large majority of the community (especially when the community is populated). It would simply be unethical to penalise dozens of people (again, especially when the community is populated lol) upon submission of the run because a couple of players have ping which causes a small delay.
2. It would be far more realistic to penalise one person for having overly powerful leaps (almost no one get's ping close to "250") than it would be to penalise dozens of people for having good ping because a COUPLE people have ping which only sometimes delays them slightly.

Also, leaps affect 3 categories (Warper, Jumper (leaper) and Disruptor.) Digger affects one category (Digger, appropriate to the name lol)

It's far more likely that NEITHER will be put into effect, however...as some may argue these reasons as bias.

This thread will probably be locked by Saturday, btw.

"only sometimes delays them slightly" they delay ALL THE TIME and they delay MORE THAN SLIGHTLY, 1 sc delays more than all my leaps combined, and there are ways to make <150 ping leaps faster than mine, except people choose to salt over it rather than actually finding out how...

Btw lower ping is crazily faster for vertical leaps because of response time, that includes for vertical chain warps.

Honestly, your argument basically MAJORITY HAVE GOOD PING SO WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU, which alks,kjfgaklsjflk,asfjfasjfjkasdfjkasklfasjkjaksd STOP TRIGGERING ME