To avoid emulation issues, and provide accurately emulated runs, the rules have been updated with some required emulation settings.

WR runs will need to show emulation settings starting today.

During his most recent run submission, MrLee64 submitted a spliced run.

Evidence of the splice is mainly found in the final two combo challenges, were a set of inputs briefly appears before the challenge is performed "first try" indicating that the challenge had been previously attempted in both cases and had been edited out of the video.

I covered this in a video here to also show in real time the video that was submitted, and a comparison to what it should look like in-game:

MrLee64 will be banned from submitting to our leaderboards indefinitely, and his current runs will also be rejected.

It is sad to see cheating occur in the doa6 space, the doa community is already small and rarely sees as much activity as it has in the past 6 months. I hope this remains an isolated incident in the community, and we all work together to maintain to best community and leaderboard we can.

With the update today there is a new panel added to the all star battle mode. Maybe legacy the current versions (under a msic category) and create a new version for the current update?

Also is there a good reason to separate old file and new file versions of all-star battle? Just curious.

Any chance there could be discussion to change when timer starts in ASBR runs?

The current arcade timer forces you to start when the fight begins, but the player can move the character around before that. The player can also make an input to skip intro cutscenes meaning there is a few things the player can do to go faster before the timer starts according to the rules. I did a run with the current timer and it's super awkward to try to start the timer when I also need to start a combo on top of the things I mentioned above

There's also an issue with LRT, as there is no description anywhere as to what constitutes a load, and some people have submitted rta runs as load removed.

The rules also state a run can't fit into two categories or it will be rejected. Does that mean if someone gets a WR for endless 5 while also getting the WR for endless 10 they can only hold 1 of the two runs? What kind of rule is that, the fastest run is the fastest run...

If I want to do a run on the Capcom Fighting Collection version for the PC, does that belong here or would a new leaderboard be needed?

Pretty much title. Having a gif with so much animation makes it incredibly hard on the eyes to browse the leaderboard.

KingsIsle Entertainment is publicly offering a 20-dollar reward of in game Wizard101 currency for getting a world record in the Wizard101 leaderboard, which has over 100 runners (and an additional 25 dollars to a GDQ chosen charity). After a response to one of their posts, a community manager informed me that such a leaderboard is not considered competitive enough to warrant it being called competitive, and that such world records were attainable at a pace of “5 world records in 2 weeks” and thus trying to justify that someone can earn up to a hundred dollars’ worth of rewards (except it costs them nothing since they are giving out in game currency). They also mocked my willingness to help charity even though I literally have a charity speedrun marathon participation lined up in 2 days.

In order to prove how much of a joke KingsIsle’s approach and attitude towards speedurnning is, I will PERSONALLY match their funding incentive in the Overwatch 2 leaderboards, which have approximately the same number of players as the W101 leaderboards as of me writing this. This means that as a college student I will match the world record incentive of a multimillion-dollar company LMFAO. On the final night of 2022, the world record of each category for Tutorial PC/Console and Practice Range PC (of that current season, all heroes) will “win” and I will donate 45 dollars to the charity of choice of each world-record holder. If you want to help, I would highly request your speedrun includes the words “A world record is worth more than 20$” somewhere on your screen.

This is a personal incentive, and not something sponsored by the mod team. I think it is insulting to value the countless hours and passion people put into speedurnning at 20$ worth of in game currency and I hope to see attitudes like this change in the future.

Copying the requirement form DOA6. From now on WRs will need video proof.

Hey all, Game Brain here on behalf of the mod team. There are a few changes that will be added to the leaderboard so I wanted to make a forum post covering everything.

1. Splitting Current Patch Runs From Pre-1.22 Runs

Many time attack runs took place while the game was being regularly updated. After reading over and experiencing changes from patches after August 2019, it is clear that time attack runs are indeed affected. The last patches of DOA 6 focused on universal character changes, changes to game aspects like danger zones, and of course game balance and additional character releases (which further dilutes rng pool).

With all of these changes in mind, as discussed in the community discord, the proper approach is to retroactively create what is effectively a “current patch” category. When thinking about how to properly do this split, it is important to consider the size of our community, meaning it would not make sense to split the old leaderboard into 10 different patches. The solution we will be going with is to change the existing category, to “Time-Attack (Legacy)” in order to maintain the showcasing of old runs. A new category simply called “Time-Attack” will be made to serve as the current patch variant, hosting any run that took place after Patch 1.22 (the last update the game received).

With this approach, we manage to not significantly split the leaderboard, while also allowing the proper emphasis on old runs and current runs. Additionally, any run that has taken place since 1.22 will be manually moved to the new category so the runners don't have to worry themselves about it.

2. Video Submission Requirement

To give some historical context as to why full video submission was not required for doa5/6, when the doa5 lb was first becoming popular, the go to version for running was Steam. However, the game requirements were quite demanding and could lead to serious lag when recording the game on weaker computers (not to mention capture card requirements to record consoles). With only an incredibly small group of people running the game’s time attack mode, the mod team back then agreed that image submission was fine, as doa5 also gave you a detailed timecard. Additionally, some runs took place in local tournaments, with runners such as myself encouraging others to try a run, resulting in screenshot proof for a 10th place time making a lot of sense.

It has been recently brought to my attention that it is now possible to use software to manipulate the in game timer. In the past, people were able to hack scores in the in-game leaderboards but there had never been mention of being able to mess with the timer in real time. This creates a need for video proof for runs to become the standard for top times.

When deciding how to change our rules, it was important to keep the original reasoning for not having such a requirement in mind. Thus we will require video proof for world records. This will allow us to keep high accessibility for the game, while also not losing credibility for top times.

3. New Categories! Combo Challenges

On the positive end, we have our first new category being added in a few years, Combo Challenges! The category is based around completing a character’s combo challenges as fast as possible, and thus will be split by character. Character specific categories are something that a few people had requested in the past, and this is a way to fulfill that idea while also providing a new and unique speedrun category. We will monitor interest in this category carefully, and potentially also add a command training category in the future.

Thank you for everything.

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Just for the sake of consistency among this game and DOA5, I'll start heavily enforcing the rule of requiring IGT split times for each fight when using image proof. This is only for consistent leaderboards and sadly DOA6 provides a much worse final card than DOA5 so something like this must be done manually.

That said runs before this forum post are fine since the rule was barely enforced. If you submit a run that took place on 8/1/19 or earlier it should be good without splits since it's impossible to go back and record them if you haven't already.

Hello everybody,

Starting today, emulating PSP version of BBS will be allowed on the leaderboards. Emulator will be added in as a separate subcategory to the PSP boards to allow runners to submit their times without influencing the original boards. The emulator that will be accepted for the runs is PPSSPP. Since it has a feature for speedup, there will also be a requirement to have the “show FPS” feature turned on for the duration of the run to ensure validity and fairness. We hope this encourages more people to pick up BBS and old runners to try the PSP version of it. If you have any questions about the process, please let us know.

• BBS Mod Team

Hello everybody,

Starting today, emulating PSP version of BBS will be allowed on the leaderboards. Emulator will be added in as a separate subcategory to the PSP boards to allow runners to submit their times without influencing the original boards. The emulator that will be accepted for the runs is PPSSPP. Since it has a feature for speedup, there will also be a requirement to have the “show FPS” feature turned on for the duration of the run to ensure validity and fairness. We hope this encourages more people to pick up BBS and old runners to try the PSP version of it. If you have any questions about the process, please let us know.

• BBS Mod Team

Hello everybody,

Starting today, emulating PSP version of BBS will be allowed on the leaderboards. Emulator will be added in as a separate subcategory to the PSP boards to allow runners to submit their times without influencing the original boards. The emulator that will be accepted for the runs is PPSSPP. Since it has a feature for speedup, there will also be a requirement to have the “show FPS” feature turned on for the duration of the run to ensure validity and fairness. We hope this encourages more people to pick up BBS and old runners to try the PSP version of it. If you have any questions about the process, please let us know.

• BBS Mod Team

Hello everybody, making this forum post for transparency reasons. You may have noted the category split between PS4 and PS4 Pro that just took place and I would like to make it crystal clear as to why this is the case.

One important thing to note, this decision is unrelated to HDD and SSD. Since the hard drive effectively only affects loads, HDD and SDD will continue to remain together.

Now onto the split. As a community there is a consensus that when a run is different in a significant way, it is separated. When this discussion first arose, about 2 years ago, there was little to no knowledge of differences between consoles at the time, and the only real noticeable difference was load times. Hence the decision was made to have PS4 and PS4 Pro under the same category. At the time, this made perfect sense. However, as time passed, and the run became more and more optimized, some key differences began to arise. Many of these can be traced to the game running on 60fps on PS4 Pro, compared to the 30FPS of regular PS4. From shotlocks, to enemy AI, PS4 Pro started becoming a “different” run. Basically, it is currently impossible to recreate strats used in most PS4 Pro fights on a PS4.

With that in mind, a forum post was brought up a few weeks ago, as well as a discussion on the community discord, to give everybody an opportunity to voice their opinions. No major concerns were brought up, and it appeared that most active runners were on board with the idea of a split.

To summarize, I would once again like to emphasize that this split is taking place due to how differently the run plays out due to new information obtained in the 2 years since the original decision to not split the boards. If you have any questions please feel free to leave them below.

General thread to discuss leaderboard status.

Currently things that are being looked into:

• Time attack has more than 5 difficulties but they appear to be unlockable. Currently I can't find any information anywhere as to how they are unlocked, and I myself have only unlocked one additional difficulty randomly while playing versus with friends.

• Story mode takes place in a very weird manner, with chapters/episodes unlocking in what appear to be an arbitrary order. Suggestions are welcome as to how to define it as a speedrun.

• Quest mode is long and tedious. I doubt there would be interest in a speedrun of it, but if so, would it be any star or 3 star? this would need to be discussed at some point.

When this leaderboard was first created, there was major discussion on 2 topics. First, HDD vs SSD. Second PS4 vs PS4 Pro. Both discussions ended in the same way. The leaderboards did not get separated due to the perfectly logical argument that all that is affected is just load times and that the runs are exactly the same. The conversation died out and the 0.2 board remained as it is seen today. However, since then, there exists a major difference, that should have re-ignited the conversation quite a while ago. PS4 and PS4 Pro are actually no longer the same run. Thus, a new situation exists, where technically someone running on PS4 would never be able to recreate a PS4 pro run. Beyond that, many of the the old arguments still stand. While currently there are are no plans to directly change anything, we thought it would be best to open this topic for discussion and see what the community has to say.

Before I begin I just want to say three things. First, I have nothing personal against Natoramius. He seems like a really good guy, and for the most part it was a pleasure having him on the mod team. However, there are certain standards a mod should uphold, and it pains me to say that Natoramius has repeatedly failed to do so. The second thing is, before we begin, how good someone is at speedrunning has nothing to do with how good of a mod they are. Natoramius is one of, if not the best overall Overwatch runner, and I completely respect that. However, that doesn’t guarantee good communication which is a vital component of being a good mod. Thirdly, for anyone curious if this has anything to do with the verbal fiasco that took place in our discord the other day, it doesn’t directly but that didn’t help his case. There are a lot of behind the situation scenes (as I will outline in this post) and that event was a mere display of his poor representation of the team.

Without sugar coding it, Natoramius will no longer be part of the mod team.

In the past, mods have been removed due to inactivity and I have never written a post on them. That is because it’s a more natural situation. In this case however, I feel I must justify this decision with multiple layers of proof, since it is such a drastic action to remove arguably the most active mod. Thus I will present you with the multiple scenarios that led to this removal. Some of them are straight up violation of the rules, lies, or simply acting in an offensive manner.

Situation 1: The lie of changing Overwatch’s theme.

So this scenario is a straight up lie that was not necessary, mainly because, Natoramius did something good, but for whatever reason decided to lie about it causing a problem among the mods. So a few weeks ago, Natoramius asked me if I had added a 4th place icon on the leaderboard, which I had not.

Proof 1:

From his wording and reaction it appeared as he had not either. Thus I assumed the other mod, Axends might have added it. However, after contacting Axends, he denied having done it. Since I was self-aware that I had not made such a change, one of the two mods was clearing lying. Thus, I contacted the srcom moderators and asked them to provide me with the log for the change. They did. To my surprise, Natoramius himself had made the edit.

Proof 2:

After realizing he had lied, and without revealing that I had the log, I decided to contact him once again, in case I had mistaken what he had said. So I asked him if he had changed it or if he knew someone else who had. His response was once again claiming that he hadn’t, and even played innocent, questioning if the verifiers could have.

Proof 3:

I then proceeded to confront him, told him he shouldn’t have lied, etc. At the end of the day, there wasn’t a pre-established rule for not making changes without consulting other mods so I couldn’t say anything about that. However, what concerned him is that he LIED. And above that, without any reason. That really stood out as something problematic, and at least for me, basically nullified his credibility. Nevertheless, I went ahead and made a mod chat (yes this is actually why a private mod chat exists) and also created a few basic rules that mods should follow, such as not editing the theme of the game without mentioning it.

Proof 4:

While the story would end here, I do want to mention one more thing. Natoramius went on to violate this rule by changing the srcom logo of the lbs without telling anyone. He did admit to doing it, but the rule existed by that point so it was a straight up disregard of the rule. Proof 5: So for this first part, he straight up lied without any reason and then violated a rule.

Situation 2: Self Verification

From the moment our leaderboard obtained its 3rd mod, self-verification for mods was banned. In order to maintain honesty, and provide an honorable example of speedrunning, mods on our leaderboard DON’T verify their own runs (keep this in mind as it will show up again towards the end). I could post a large number of situations where Natoramius verified his own runs, but for the purposes of keeping this post to the point I think two are enough.

Proof 6:

Proof 7:

Even if it was JUST these 2 situations, which it wasn’t, that is still TWO violations of the same rule. At this point I would like to once again state that as a mod you are supposed to set an example, and not only did Natoramius not do that, but he straight up went against the rules. You can’t ask others to follow rules you don’t follow yourself. Not much more to say here. Once again, this by itself is reason for someone to lose the position of mod. Yet, it doesn’t end here.

Situation 3: Verifying Invalid Runs

Once again this doesn’t need much of a description. The main job of any mod/verifier it to check to make sure runs are legit and valid. As a side-note, nobody is 100% perfect and a few times some situation has made it past all of us. This is NOT what this is about. In the case of Natoramius, it is clear that he DID NOT EVEN REVIEW certain runs, accepting them blindly.

Proof 8:

As you can see, this is a 22 minute run, yet it was verified 3 minutes after it was submitted. That means that Natoramius didn’t watch the entire vod. When confronted, this was his response:

Proof 9:

Laziness is not a valid excuse. There is no reason to verify a run the moment you see it if you can’t. If you don’t have time another verifier/mod will. However that is not an isolated case.

Proof 10:

And beyond that, there are multiple scenarios where Natoramius has actually verified runs where the real time submitted is longer than the actual video (as you can see below).

Proof 11:

Proof 12:

Once again, straight up, it’s not about watching a run and maybe missing a small splice; it’s about not bothering to review the runs, and basically not doing your job as a mod.

Final Situation: The Last Straw

So at this point, there are a large amount of reasons Natoramius straight up deserves to lose his role as a mod. I actually had started writing a post similar to this, 2 weeks ago, but I scrapped it. When Natoramius joined the team originally, he seemed enthusiastic, committed, willing to help, and kind-hearted. All of those traits are incredibly important to being a successful mod, and he had never given me a reason to doubt any of them before. Even with the multiple rule violations, I felt bad punishing a person who appeared to be trying. In this whole situation, this is where my failure comes in. I held Natoramius higher than I should have. Because, as it was proved down the line, he didn’t change. As you saw above, the same “mistakes” happened again and again, and his errors were only matched by his recent poor attitude.

While I said this was not the main reason for his ban (it wasn’t, everything above was) when I saw the events occur over the past few days, I realized that Natoramius really wasn’t a good representation for the community. While he personally claims he did not insult anyone, and that he only made two harmless “jokes” I will accept that and not even bring those two jokes up. Let’s look at everything else he said one thing at a time.

Proof 13:

Once again, if this was an isolated situation, it would mean nothing. But it is not Natoramius’s role to define the worth of someone else. His role is to be a good mod and set a positive example, which he clearly didn’t do.

Proof 14:

“I’m having a good time,” by completely disregarding everyone else. Once again, repeated behavior of disrespect, just because of his mod status he clearly acts like there are no consequences.

Proof 15:

Speaks for himself. Unacceptable for a mod to respond like that after the entire situation.

Proof 16:

Proof 17:

Proof 18:

Is offensive towards someone’s intelligence, denies it, then proceeds to make up an excuse, which is also offensive by questioning my intelligence (by the way I’m not English either…). These images combined speak for themselves.

Conclusion

As a mod, you are the community’s best. You are selected to not only verify runs, but also entrusted with complete control over the leaderboard. Being a mod is a privilege. And sadly, Natoramius has failed in every way to make good use of it. Natoramius has not only lied, but has also violated the rules multiple times, and has misrepresented the community more than once. His poor attitude reflects badly upon the entire team, and he has made zero effort to have proper communication with any member of the mod team other than his own friend. And above all that, after all the times I have talked to him and warned him, he has the audacity to threaten me by saying he will verify his own run if I don’t verify it (thus braking the rules once again).

Proof 19:

(For the record, the run hasn’t been verified for 3 days, 2 of those which were discussion on the rules of that specific category and srcom doesn’t consider something backlog for at least a week). With that, I have nothing else left to say. I am incredibly sorry that it had to happen like this, but if you abuse something, it can be taken away from you. Being a mod does NOT put you above others in terms of what is tolerated. So, my sincerest apologies, but I am taking the action that I believe is best for the boards.

As for this thread, I know there will probably be a lot of backlash/arguing. I will leave it open for discussion as long as the discussion remains civilized. Also I’ll do my best to respond to any questions.

I never thought I'd have to make a post about this as it's pretty self evident: all runs, including the submitted video, should be in real time in order to be verified.

We now have a community discord. You can use the link below or the one in the sidebar to join.

https://discord.gg/9AXFhy3