Control glitch may work differently on consoles and prevent the quick start. Will need someone else to confirm as I do not have access to this.

If it is indeed different/impossible then we will switch to starting the timer at first input

Updating here to say that we have an auto-start and load-remover now for anyone playing on pc. (look under Resources)

For those playing on other platforms this means that the Glitchless timer will start from first input. Any% will start when the loading bar disappears (a couple seconds before you normally get control) because we have the control glitch which can allow earlier movement

Thanks for saying this. It has been mentioned before and is in use for the Any% runs already but not allowed in Glitchless. It is actually the same type of glitch that is show in the last three pictures of moodyboocs post just above. I'll try to explain this as best I can.

The character has two states, either you can or can't move them when pushing the controls. I assume this is stored as a binary. Normally you can move. When you press escape/the menu button it flips this value to the opposite and you can't control yourself.

Certain scenes in the game have you unable to move, such as the intro wake up or the exploding pipe after pulling the plugs. By pushing the escape while in that state it flips you from being unable to move back to being able.

The start one is slightly different though in that it allows you to open and close the menu, instead of keeping the menu open the whole time. I believe that it's because you can queue up the opening of the menu before the character really exists, so that the closing of it only flips the switch once, allowing you to move.

The extended any% actually makes a good use of this control glitch as well. I'm not sure if you've played/seen it, but there's a segment where you are crushed and lose the ability to really travel up. You can skip part of the crushing and ignore the control loss of overheating from going up too much allowing you to skip a good portion of this category.

I just want to note that we did resolve this issue and I clarified how it was a glitch. All is well now and looking forwards to seeing more runs from them.

When running through Ettinmere I noticed the runs getting the Holnstead waypoint for extra experience. If you take the short detour into the camp and talk to the gnome he gives you a quest. On the way out of Dellach the final room where you use reckoning mode there are normally two ettins. With this quest there is a third one that drops the Shine and Shadow (daggers), and potentially more fate essence. Quick stop in the camp after and you can get more exp, and keep the daggers to get more juicy purple gold.

Edit: if the persuasion chance is too low you can kill the gnome, ending the quest and keep the daggers that way. There are no guards in the area so the crime doesn't matter. May need to kill the one other guy in the camp too (haven't tested)

I actually just found a pair of purple daggers that you could consistently come across in the route. Shine and Shadow.

When running through Ettinmere I noticed the runs getting the Holnstead waypoint for extra experience. If you take the short detour into the camp and talk to the gnome he gives you a quest. On the way out of Dellach the final room where you use reckoning mode there are normally two ettins. With this quest there is a third one that drops the daggers, and potentially more fate essence.

Going to post this again in the run suggestion forum thing too

We need to agree on a single event to start the timer at. I see three options right now. Unless someone knows how to create an auto splitter (I do not).

1. When you push new game. My opinion is to not use this because each computer actually loads into the game at a different speed. Grimelios mentions that his is about 10 seconds. Just tested on mine and it was closer to 16 seconds. This is too big of a gap

2. After skipping the opening cutscene. I have been starting my timer right when the black begins to fade to colour and the music begins.

3. Wait for the game screen to fully load in and start timer with your first input.

I agree. That is special stuff not in the base game. Adds an unfair advantage if you happened to pay more money

Well I'm shelving this game now too. I can't find any way to deal with the experience issue and simple grinding in a speedrun is just wrong.

Hell I can't even get to Rathir in much less than 2h let alone beat the game in 1.5h so unless something new comes up...

Dayum. There must be some glitches/skips included in that because I was almost constantly sprinting straight to the objectives for my test. I'm curious now too :p

I just started attempting to form a speedrun for this game following a pretty much pure sorcery casting build. I figured this would be easiest since it seems the least dependent on gear which is for the most part completely random.

There are no rules posted for the any% run but I went under the idea that the dlc bonus loot crate at the very start is off limits since not all players will have it.

The only detours I made were to get the Selkie Veil early on solving most of my mana issues and buying the Magus ring from the Inn in Ayten for +1 sorceries.

Long story short I hit a snag late game where I am simply underlevelled and can't reasonably kill enemies. I was wondering if anyone knows of a fast way to get experience in Klurikon or Alabastra to fix the levelling issue. Up until this point levels were not an issue, then suddenly a wall where I'm only level 17 but should be closer to 20. (If you didn't know, enemies that are higher level than you, specifically dark orange and red enemies, will stagger much less if at all from your attacks and have a much higher damage resistance)

The only other thing that might help, though not as much, would be if there was a way to get a LOT of money before Rathir to buy some fantastic gear. Without levelling mercantile some very useful items cost 750k each

If it wasn't for this levelling issue I think a run could be done in about 4 hours. A lot less than I initially thought :D

I just tested the glitch displayed in the screenshots and it is indeed possible. First run with this and I got 27:53 but I suspect a low 26 is very possible.

New category added for glitched runs/any%

If you have found any glitches at all please post them here. We may be able to find a way to include them in a run and make another category for the game.