Nah I feel you, there's no real way to see if I'm cheating or not, or even scripting bhops for that matter if all you get is a demo and a playback recording of a demo.

Would some poop-shit like hypercam or other offline screen recording work for you guys? I figure no because it could always be a demo playback I suppose.

Also as for now my runs will be single-level submissions. I have a few that I know can have great times with some grinding so I wanted to get some questions out of the way first. I'll figure something out I guess in regards to streaming when I need to worry about it. Thanks for the info.

Okie dokie, thank you for your input though, I suppose I'll only have to worry about it when I get good times.

Hi, I play on a laptop and adore b-hopping in l4d2, which consequently resulted in me learning a lot of skips and shit on my own or through various youtube channels and then to speedrunning. I want to submit runs but I can't stream on this rig, my fps drops too heavily and playing up to par is impossible if running OBS, even with high frame configs.

I'm asking you to open submissions for demo recordings (.dem files).

I guess some people care about an advantage someone might have in regards to mods and special infected; which honestly unless you can see them through walls, you're just knit picking. Not that I currently run them, but people having skins for specials doesn't give them an innate advantage against someone who has been playing this game for a while, they know what their sound cues are and I bet most of you run closed captions to see what your ears miss. Someone said something along the lines of 'if I had an anime skin for the Witch I definitely would not have shot her right there' or something to that effect. This is secondary because you hear a witch before you see it 99% of the time, and the 1% that you don't hear a witch first before seeing it, it shows up in closed captions. If your problem is how she blends in, she has an aura around her.

All in all on the other side of the fence I can see how BRIGHT ORANGE jockeys can be an advantage, but fragmenting the community due to something so small is simply trivial, I feel like more people would be competitive runners here if .dem files were allowed, but it may just be me. Perhaps a way to see what addons you're running could be found, or a console command to temporarily remove them, or a way to show you aren't running any. I don't know, anything to get over this roadblock would be beneficial.

Thanks for your time, please discuss your opinions below. I'm very interested in what you all have to say.

I just found this place, holy shit, finally a bastion of information for L4D2 runs.

Despite having a bunny-hop script category, can I b-hop in a regular run manually and submit it as a regular run? Or does bunny-hopping at all make my run categorized as a scripted 'bunny-mod' run?