Just checked it, the freezing is indeed fixed.

I'd see 3 options now:

• Preffered would be: get a downgraded version (i dont have one i'm afrad... anyone got one?) and adding Leaderboards for post-1.42/adding a version-filter in the anniversary-leaderboards.

• Wiping the leaderboards and only allowing further runs on current patch

• (imho NOT really an option) allowig keyboard-macros, since it's still possible duping skillponts this way. Since not everyone has macro-keys i'd highly NOT recommand this (looking at the amiibo-discussion at breath of the wild you can see how that would go)

I'd most likey go with Option 1... Anyone got an old version?

I haven't checked yet, i can look into it this evening. To me, the note in the patch notes more seems to refer to a small (and highly inconsistent) glitch where you could teleport through gates that are opening, e.g. in Chang'an.

Ppl told me many times that the glitch is fixed and it never was... i guess there's still a chance that we can continue doing speedruns on current patch.

So for the Multiplayer Latency Glitch in Titan Quest... I did some testing some weeks ago. for a tl:dr if it works in Grim Dawn it only would work with attribute points, NOT with skillpoints. I didn't adress this yet because a) I don't have a setup to do it in a speedrun-scenario, b) I didnt consider attribute points only to be worth searching for it.

But here's the reasoning why i can say that skillpoints won't work:

First of all, how the glitch in Titan Quest works. The point duplication works because if a skill/Attributepoint is spent, the calculation for it will be on the next frame of the game. So spending e.g. 10 points in one frame causes the game in the next frame to calculate 10 times the skillpoints as follows:

Does the player have at least one skillpoint remaining? -> Yes he has, so decrease remaining points by 1 and increase the skill by 1.

This happens 10times in exactly the same frame, so even if the player has only 1 skillpoint remaining, he gets the confirmation that the skillpoint can be spent 10 times. Since the remaining points cannot be negative, you don't land on 0 remaining points instead of -9, which is the actual reason for the duplication.

So technically the glitch is caused by spending multiple skillpoints in one frame of the game. That can be done by either freezing the game or, if you go by a method which is not valid for speedrunning, using a macro keyboard to perform multiple clicks in one frame.

I didn't find a spot in Grim Dawn where i can get the game to completely freeze, but the macro-keyboard-method is still valid.

Long story short, it turns out that the skillpoint duplication is somehow fixed in Grim Dawn. The glitch actually only works with attribute points. Thinking about it, i haven't checked the devotion points yet, i'll check it soon.

So the skillpoint method most likely won't work, but maybe we can come up with different strats... would be interesting to find some coop-strats ;)

Hi all,

I need some help, I'd like to get into running Cornerstone any% NCS. The thing is, I'm not able to pull the big jump on Dune island off, the one to get into the fortress by jumping off the big vase. Other big jumps (like getting the parachute early) work fine. Is there anything i need to know about this jump?

What i figured out is, that all runs are done on a different version then i have. I bought the game via steam, so i have the 3.1.7. All runs i saw on the leaderboard were done on 3.1.2. Anyone knows whether this could be a reason for the jump failing? Are there other known differences between these versions?

Also... is there a Skype or Discord group for runners of this game? would help a lot if i got more questions ;)

Thanks in advance.

so i know this topic is a bit older, but i just got bored and timed some of the loading times in the VoDs. What i Compared:

My PB (Played on WiiU vWii, meaning Disc version of DKCR put in a WiiU, the WiiU will then start with less ram and less CPU cores and handle itself like it was a normal Wii) compared to Riekelt's PB (afaik Done on WiiUVC, meaning Download-version. Please correct me if wrong).

Time from hitting "start" to start moving in 1-1: My PB: around 28s Riekelt's PB: Around 25.8s

The average Loading time from a Level to the overworld (timed from the ends of the tie swipes before and after a loading animation): My PB: 6.0-6.1s Riekelt: 5.4-5.5s

Loading a level seems to have different loading times for each level since all levels differ in length, ofc. However it also seems in direct coparison that the loading times are a bit faster on Riekelt's Version.

I didn't have time for a overall timing in the run, but i maybe could do soon... i also might get the WiiUVC-Version and see how far i can pull my time down just by using it. As far as i can tell right now you should be able to save around 60-90seconds overall in the run, so its more then expected.

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Hmm... the main reason for 2 player fields was that the "original" coop run was 2 players. It already got changed so that 6 players can be submitted... since i didn't do it, you can thank Kotti for it, he was fast ;)

Thinking about the more players=faster boss fights, i guess it would not really apply, cause the boss fights are less then 5% of the total run time. It might even be that the boss is down before all 6 players are at the area, considering you have one person doing the running and 5 ppl just fighting. Might be a thing for a potential Any% legendary coop... if anyone would be crazy enough to pull that off.

So, why i put that much INT in... i had 2 reasons in mind: a) higher energy regeneration (INT in fact improves that) and b) the ability to wear legendary INT-based armor, some of them got quite good resistance bonuses. Now i also know that the 800 base INT was a bit over the top, around 400 should be enough since the energy-regeneration-bonus is not that high.

And yeah i know that i need to train legendary typhon, that fight went horrible for me. As i rewatched my run i also noticed that there was almost no boss fight where i used the circle of power. I Should definitely improve in this point.

So about the boots. The boots are what i call a "delaying point to save time". In the old Immortal-Throne Any% we estimated that the 20% boots save around 15 minutes in the run, so if you dont use the boots you lose around 15 minutes. On the other hand you cannot say "when i dont get the boots for 15 Minutes i just move along" because in that case you already lost 15m trying to get the boots and you will lose another 15m because you end up not using them. So in Total we got to that point that since the merchants can have the boots each time you re-enter the game it is ALWAYS better to farm for them because you can not know before that you will be that unlucky not getting the boots in the round about 30 tries re-entering. that was the example for the Any%(IT) run, but the same point applies to the 20% and the 30% boots in the Any% legendary. For the 20% Boots it should be around a 10 minutes time save which would be around 20 tries in Knossos. That one should definitely be worth getting it all the time. I am not quite sure how much time the 30% boots save over "only" having the 20% boots. Especially since it can happen that you only have 4% differnce in movement speed between them (upgrade from 24% on journeying to 28 on campagning). So, depending on how much time the campagning boots save over the journeying in average, Compared to the number of tries you need to get the campagning, the answer might be anything between "most worthy getting them right at the spartan camp in epic" and "not worthy getting them at all" (which actually i doubt that one of these extremes is the solution for this.) I personally went for the Campagning boots just as i do it for journeying. I check all merchants that can have them. If i don't have them by knossos i start farming. Looks like a decent rule so far, but it might get optimized.

Well i just finished my test-run... 7:57 ingame-time... 2 deaths overall. Well, i don't have a RTA Timing or video since i didnt finish it in one setting.

That time sounds crazy... I really would expect that the Any% is far longer then 3x Any% (which would be 4h30min) I guess i'll create the Any% Legendary category and put your run in as soon as i looked over the video. Let's see how far we can get this down.

Just started a run with the nature/spirit combo. Seems quite good, also trying stuff like early quest-Items and lokking, which sidequest are worth getting. I am right after Gorgons in epic right now, didnt have more time for today.

But i guess this run does not represent the "normal" dropluck... had the Druid robe (blue Chest armor with +1 on all nature skills) at the Cyclope... and... I guess you get what it is even with the german name... just got them in epic with nice +10% elemental resistance.

So I also tried the frenzy scroll and i have to say, it does not work out well. It might say it gives +35% movement, and actually it does, yeah. The thing about it is: you have +10% from heart of Oak, +10% From Wolf Buffs (with 3 wolves you get it about 70% of the time), and you have the Dark Covenant/Refresh combo which works out very well. There wasn't really a time where i had less then 155% movement, even on normal... and i guess for an extra 11% the scrolls aren't worth it. At least on Epic with Campagning Boots it should be done for frenzy scrolls.

So personally i havent tried with typhon strats so far since i mostly played fighter chars with very good damage-output. But I went through some videos and as long as something like this works we should be fine i guess.

Wow, nice that you made that run... i gotta watch it (cant do it right now, since i'm at work and i wont get home before 8PM). I guess we have to create the category now... i'll do that as soon as i saw the run ;)

I was aware that you can re-use the Questitems, but i didnt consider it yet, because i wanted to be sure that the Any% Legendary can be done first before discussing further strats. Actually you should be able to do that with the Eye of the Greys aswell. This could be a quite good timesave since you need around 3-4 minutes to get to them once.

I didn't check the frenzy scrolls yet so i cant tell how long they last. the actually might be an option for Any% normal depending on the cost, bonus and duration.

Yes, RNG is quite a factor in this run. You need to get some loot, and you need to be able to wear it, so also levelups are really necessary. Maybe we can set up a route, which quest are worth getting during the run that we can make sure to be able to use the items we find.

Tricks... well... there really are not that many tricks in this game. The most stuff i foud out were minor Route improvements (like Entrance at delphi where the guards are, you dont have to get to the guards, you can bypass in front of them). It really comes down to memorizing the route and then going through it as fast as possible. I wrote a guide fopr the any% normal some wekks ago for the german community. I might get it up to date, translate it and post it here in the guides section, maybe that is some help.

So i might try a Any% legendary soon. Not today, but maybe this weekend.

So, since i'm currently writing with several people about a possible Any% Legendary Category (Beating Hades on Legendary from a new Character file) i thought i'd open up the topic for some open discussion.

I'm Currently trying the Templar (Dream/Defense). Most damage comes from Reflecting enemy damage (Dream and defense both have a skill which throws back 60% of the incoming damage). Combined with some decent equipement and around 10k HP (and some DEX for evasion) you can get a quite good result. Currently i just passed the grey sisters in epic, Typhon in epic was no big deal, so i have a quite good feeling that it will work out the whole way.

Nickname: Mr.Tiger twitch: twitch.tv/mrtiger92 Country: germany Game: Donkey Kong Country Returns Category: Any% Estimate: 1:45:00 Time Preferences: i'll be quite Busy the whole weekend, only Timeslots i can show the run would be Sunday 7:00-noon and 19:00-midnight (CET) If you cant put me in one of these slots, i can't show the run.

Link:

Well i wasn't struggling on the text boxes, my english is quite decent. I just got some viewers that wanted me to speedrun Grim Dawn since i started doing Titan Quest... and since they are playing Grim Dawn alot they asked me whether i could change the language to german. So yeah, i also had the issue that the "official" translations ingame didn't work (maybe just after restarting the game) so i did the challenge on the english version.

So basically the discussion we had in the stream was whether fan-made translations should be allowed or not, because you normally play the game on a unmodified official release (which would not apply for the fanmade translations).

Since it is "only" the translation it might not affect the run itself, so maybe this could be allowed. The only thing i'm not sure about is... can we make sure that all fanmade language patches do have the same amount of textboxes? It might be that one language has less textboxes so the amount of menuing through dialogues is less (especially at the "continue-buttons" it could be. I guess we can't check every fanmade translation so we might deal with a small risk by allowing the fan-translations.

These points are just what we discussed in a stream (and another stream i made) plus some own thoughts. I personally don't mind either decision, allowing or banning them... but i don't think i should be the one making it ;)

I kinda doubt that you will... but if you need a 1hr40m run for the buffers, you can readd Donkey Kong Country Returns, it got cut in the 3rd round cuts. I'll be in Växjö for the whole event. ;)

Update am 12.07.2016:

Die Submission-Phase ist seit dem 31.07. geschlossen. Danke an alle Runner, die ihre Runs submitted haben.

Wir planen, bis Anfang September einen ersten Schedule zu erstellen. Genauere Infos dazu gibt es natürlich zu gegeber Zeit.

Welche Runs bereits submitted wurden, könnt ihr hier ansehen: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D9UtFzuPB5fcv89OG_Zix1x8Rvwm7zb4UWARKHW1iYs/

Wenn ihr weitere Fragen habt, einfach antworten oder per direkte PM an den Germench-Account oder mich.

Hallo zusammen! Hier bekommt ihr alle Informationen zum Zocktoberfest 2016! Ich habe das Ganze ein Wenig als FAQ aufgebaut.

Was ist das Zocktoberfest?

Das Zocktoberfest (ZFM) ist ein Speedrun-Charity-Marathon, welcher von der Community Germench organisiert wird.

Wann und wo?

Das Zocktoberfest wird vom 24.10.2016 bis zum 31.10.2016 stattfinden. Das Event ist als reines Online-Event ausgelegt, d.h. jeder Runner wird von sich zu Hause aus streamen (oder einem beliebigen anderen Ort), das Signal wird auf unserem Server gesammelt und dann auf unseren Twitch-Kanal umgeleitet. Jeder der möchte kann über den Stgream Zuschauen und dabei sein.

Ich will als Runner mitmachen. Wo muss ich mich anmelden?

Die Submission-Phase findet aktuell statt. Genaueres dazu im Submission-Thread.

An wen kann ich mich wenden wenn ich Fragen habe?

Ansprechpartner sind die Moderatoren dieses Forums:

Civ (verwaltet den Account "Germench"): Submissions und Schedule MrTiger92: Forenmoderator, Mädchen für alles.

Grundsätzlich könnt ihr gerne einen von uns (via twitch-PM oder auf Twitter) anschreiben, oder hier im Thread weitere Fragen stellen.

Weitere FAQ-Elemente werden folgen, sobald wir was haben ;)

Hi, I would like to request SuperMod Status for Venetica (http://www.speedrun.com/Venetica ). I contacted the currently SuperMod about 3 weeks ago via twitch message. He did not respond, and his twitch channel is even gone now. Also his twitter is gone and his youtube account (he had some vids up there) shows no videos anymore, so i guess he kinda left all of his social media channels. Since i am currently the only runner for Venetica on the leaderboard i guess it's the best if i just handle that game.