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United Stateschar_bunny5 years ago

:o Nice job - that looked awesome! :D Thanks for figuring it out :) Also wondering if you can jump a bit earlier at the end so you connect with the goal sooner - hitting it from the left or top left corner rather than just the top could save a little time, but it's not enough to make it to the next second on its own. Maybe with your suggestion above it would be enough? Still a really solid time

United Stateschar_bunny5 years ago

Well that definitely makes things more complicated :P Did you already try to time it out to see if it's faster? If not I'll probably give that a try sometime this week

United Stateschar_bunny5 years ago

Was learning 13-2 any % and looking at the small outcropping housing the solitary mole right at the beginning, if Mario could get on top of there he can then skip the second half of the level. He can't naturally jump that high, but it seems like it might be possible to get up there with a boost from something like a p-switch jump. I'm not great at those and haven't been able to get it to work, but thought I'd ask in case anyone can help figure out if it's possible.

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United Stateschar_bunny5 years ago

I'm guessing you're looking at 100% rather than any%? Looks like you already have an any% that's a lot faster (and have already updated 100% with new strats in the video at least) :P I haven't taken a look at 100% yet but for any% I think it's slightly faster to use the bob-omb from the bottom right room to explode the blocks below the pipe instead of using the pipe helmet. Unfortunately that doesn't help much for 100% I think :/

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United Stateschar_bunny5 years ago

If it can go lower, it feels like it would need to be a new strategy rather than small optimizations :/ I don't know a ton about propeller tech so maybe there's something out there. Here's what I'm trying to optimize, although I haven't actually timed these out against other strategies so they could potentially be slower:

  • At the start, having Mario grab the propeller as high in the air as possible. I'm aiming to jump in the middle of the fourth brick after the starting platform. When I pull it off, it looks like the propeller mushroom collides with Mario's foot
  • Dropping down onto the next platform ASAP. I don't know how much time that potentially saves over just holding right and letting Mario fall at his own pace, but it definitely feels faster (maybe just because it means you get to do something :P )
  • I do a completely different strategy for the middle part and I have no idea if it's faster or slower. Rather than damaging on the boo to lose the propeller suit before the stairs, I avoid that boo and use the propeller to go up the stairs section without slowing down. At the top of the stairs I'm moving slower as the suit descends, and there I damage into the boo on that hallway
  • Just after the coin block I jump with the goal being to have Mario at a higher falling speed going into the elevator part. Again, not sure how much this actually helps - for it to have a chance Mario has to cut the corner super close
  • At the bottom of the elevator, cut the last corner as close as possible. I think keeping Mario on the left of the elevator until you can hold right and not bonk could also help Mario reach top speed to the right sooner, but there's not much room to do that
  • The last part is the forward conveyor belt right before the second-to-last chain chomp. Goal would be to land on it as far to the left as possible and ride it for as long as possible without bonking. I bounce off of the dry bones to get a sharper angle of descent to try to land on it sooner and then jump after damaging into the chain chomp. I then try to twirl in air to keep that momentum as many times as possible (which for me is like 2). I think you could try to get a frame perfect jump off the ground to keep that momentum longer, but I haven't been going for that

Even with all of that, I don't think I'm close to the next second boundary, so not sure those strats are enough to do it. I recorded my video for the level tonight and just submitted it for verification, so hopefully it will show up soon (shoutout to Polonxy for the super fast turnarounds on verifications - you're awesome!) but in the meantime here's the link to the YouTube video for reference:

Would love to hear what other people are trying here as well :)

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United Stateschar_bunny5 years ago

Hi! Apologies if this is a dumb question - this is my first time trying to speedrun a game so I'm new to everything. I have some level ILs that tie or are WR times but I've been holding off on uploading since I wanted to wait until I could record with screen capture so the videos would be clean and easy to see if anyone wanted to copy strats. At this point though it's going to be a while before I can get a computer to make that happen. If I upload now with phone video (readable for verification but not great looking) and then later manage to get a clean video of the same level with the same timer, will I be able to update the video for my time, or am I stuck with my original video forever? Thank you for helping!

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