Friesland, NetherlandsI'd say don't bother with Disscord yet. It still has to take off, and if it will, we can always switch later. No need to be early.
Have you tried a full format of your hard drive, (Not a quick format) and reinstalling GTAVC on that? Alternatively, rename your current VC installation folder (dont remove it) and install VC again (without removing or overwriting the existing copy) and run the new install. That worked for me because my hard drive was shite. I dont think it gave me unhandled exceptions though, just crashed.
Discord seems to be superior to Mumble + IRC in every way. The problem is transitioning. While I am all for a transition away from Mumble, I don't think gtamarathon would be the best option to start with, as undoubtably there's going to be some getting used to. Probably better to start with some smaller marathon to try it (like an annual big race.)
This used to be a thing, but was removed for some reason despite it having more runners than Solo Coop (lol) back then
"It's nice for Nozlar to talk like I'm not even here. What a sad community this is. " -Feurigerilias
"Your eyes" "with you" "you make" "aid you" "your quest" "disproving you" "you would" -Nozlar
Good shit
[quote]And S you have no say in this matter. All you do on this matter is being opposed and hostile. So how about you let this discussion be between me and kyle instead of pooping your own opinion in that "I'm just rambling". [/quote] My opinion is irrelevant. What IS relevant though is that I'm not the ONLY person who thinks you are just rambling. I am telling you what people think, and I gave you advice on what to do with that. Everything I wrote in the long post is not because of MY opinion, its because of the opinion of others.
I'm merely telling you what to do: Invest more time in communicating your proof, not just researching it. If you feel like people aren't taking you serious, don't pretend I didn't explain to you why and what you can do about it.
I am NOT commenting on Kyle's skill/cheats/hacks/whatever in this thread. All I did is giving you feedback on your communication skills, which are lacking. But hey, if you want to continue being called a 'screaming nut who makes no sense' and a 'rambling fool who people have difficulty understanding', by all means feel free to dismiss anything I have said and continue doing 2 hour long videos with little information. I guess that's what advice is for.
Edit: Bubbleb0bbler phrased this better than I ever could. Read his post.
Might I recommend instead of linking people 2 vids of an hour each, most of it being nothing but thinking, mumbling and random chatter (long sections where no new information is given), you make a dedicated video to this issue of about 5-8 minutes. In this video: You explain your points, and show what specifically causes you to think that, explain why this means that Kyle is cheating and why this can NOT be explained by 'skill', accompanied by video footage of only the relevant bits
You're the one accusing Kyle, it is your job to convince people of what you think. You won't do so by making overly long videos containing a lot of nothing. Nobody is going to watch those.
You won't succeed in convincing people either by getting all worked up and shouting at people, because lets face it, you've got some temperament issues and the trolls are not helping you with that. You need to sit down, alone, and produce something a little more thought out, in an environment that is not stressful (so no stream, and no twitch chat to distract you).
Key-word being 'thought out'. Don't come up with things to say on the fly (as is usual when streaming.) Write something up beforehand, make sure you got your points straight and know what you're going to say. Nobody is interested in watching someone type numbers into calculator.exe/notepad.exe for 5 minutes straight, so get these numbers ready beforehand. And of course (These preparations are similar to the preparations you would do if you had to do a presentation or a speech in front of an audience.) Also keep in mind that you talk extremely fast most of the time and speak with a thick accent, making you difficult to understand at times.
Lastly, as you have said yourself, most people you are trying to convince don't know the game very well. Be sure you cater to them and give them any background information they need.
Truly lastly: Be prepared to make multiple of these kinds of videos. People will ask you questions in response to your first video. You may want to respond to these immediately, but that clearly hasn't worked out so far, as you and I are both aware. Make a second video as a followup to any questions asked after the first video. Think of it as a Q/A video, but keep this one SEPARATE from your 'this is what I think and why I think this' video.
Again, you're the accuser. You have to convince us of his guilt, not the other way around. Nobody is getting paid for any of this, so if you want the relevant people (Leaderboard mods/admins, viewers, fellow speedrunners.) to put effort in educating themselves on Kyle, you're going to have to put effort yourself into communicating your points. Until then, most people are just going to view you as the screaming loonie who's got nothing better to do than to be obsessed with Kyle. Note: Streams, with their chaotic and messy nature, do NOT count as effort. They almost never have for anyone. That's why you're being made fun of.
In short, invest some more time in communicating your points, rather than merely researching them and spurting out the information as it comes up.
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Responses to posts from above: While the video Kyle linked may have been a personal assault, it is a good example of how you sometimes don't properly listen to what people have to say.
Gael's post I am in agreement with. A forum post (again, well written, thought out, not one written in 5 minutes.) may be an alternative to the video, but it might be less effective since you'll have to link to timestamps and people aren't patient enough for the Twitch VOD player.
The list you posted is a great start. You could maybe work from here and explain these points a bit better. Kyle: I know you think Feuri is a lost cause, but maybe it might be an idea to take some time to answer these 15 points regardless. If not for Feuri, then for the outsiders who aren't completely aware of what is going on. You're still being put in a bad daylight because it is undeniable Feuri streams more than you so it is more likely people get to know you via his stream than via your own. Idc if you care.
"Kyle should use handcam, but he won't". Has Kyle even streamed at all in the past few weeks? Of course he's not using handcam if he hasn't done a stream at all. There are no past broadcasts, presumably auto deleted by Twitch. This makes it hard for people to research his 'extreme good luck' that was mentioned, since runs with bad luck have a high chance of being killed and thus not ending up highlighted. I agree that for his next couple of streams (whenever those will be), Kyle should indeed use handscam, regardless of how dumb he thinks this whole ordeal is. If anything, do it to make people shut up.
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This thread has the benefit of being easily accessible and easy to read back on. A lot of "you're not answering my questions/listening to what Im saying" is being thrown around, coming from both sides. However, these questions being asked get lost over time in Twitch Chat/Vod/Random YouTube videos noone can find back.
I hope we can make this thread civilized and have at least one place where people won't throw shit back and forth. That can be done elsewhere.
What blacklev says. It is very useful to actually know what you are doing and why it works like that, rather than just following some steps in order to pull off a trick.
[quote]but you don't even need to play the game to achieve that goal, so wr is 0s, held by literally everyone[/quote]
You don't need to play the game to achieve literally any amount of percentage either.
I like Nozlar's idea, but it'd be planning hell since we don't know who the finalists will be nor whether they will be able to play during the scheduled hours in GTAM.
GTA3 tournament can go off itself. GTAmarathon is more fun.
I remember there being a website already specifically dedicated to failing the game as quickly as possible, that I stumbled upon before I started speedrunning. I forgot what it's called, but it probably doesn't exist anymore anyway.
My decision to vote for C doesn't sit right with me since it's not actually an option, so I want to go back to my previous decision of not voting at all.
