This category would do the bonus missions Kola Cell,Vselka Infiltration,and Vselka Submarine all in a row. The timing would go by the following rules:

-Timing starts on the "Press Fire to Begin" screen after loading Kola Cell

-Timing ends when the "Mission Success" screen appears in Vselka Submarine

I'm looking for ideas of names for the category and whether or not this category should be a misc. category.

There's a recording of the pile of bodies in the Satanas Inimical Dei building right before Marta 1,and there's one of a body in the mine cart right after the first enemy encounter in the mines.

Sounds good. The 2 new collectibles are on all difficulties

There was a recent patch that came out for Outlast 2 that added a"Story Mode"difficulty,which is an Easy mode of sorts. Enemies are far less aggressive and in some cases removed entirely on this mode,so I want to propose 1 of 2 things:

1. Making Story Mode the default difficulty to run on instead of Normal.

2. Making Story Mode a separate category,most likely as a misc. category. That way,people can still run on Normal mode if they want to.

In addition to enemy encounter changes,the story mode patch also added 2 new collectibles. This makes any 100% run before that patch invalid,which could cause problems with that category's leaderboards.

Those are just my proposals,but I want to get everyone else's opinion before there are any changes to the leaderboards.

I've done offline runs of Glitchless with a couple of tricks that are kind of borderline,and I'm looking for input from the leaderboard mods on whether or not these tricks count as a glitch

The first is quickclimbing ladders using scroll wheel

The second is the gate push in Alley that's used in No OoB

My logic in including quickclimbing with scroll wheel is you aren't doing any unintended action,you're just getting off and jumping up the ladder repeatedly,which you can do just as easily with spacebar,which is allowed. If allowed,it could save a decent chunk of time throughout the entire run.

My logic in including the Alley gate push is that,in doing the trick,you don't go out of bounds,you don't clip through any walls,and you don't use geometry boosting,where if it did do any of those 3 things,it would be banned.

I understand if those tricks are against the Glitchless rules and they end up not being allowed.

I want to because I speedran the 2011 remake of Sonic CD so it made sense that I would speedrun this game

I'd like to add "WTH"

Here's video of it:

Andy has made one that he posted in the guides section :)

Haven't seen much,but these 3: Mario Sunshine,Pokemon Gold,SOMA

Nothing huge but I wanted to clarify why on my rejected run I timed it the way I did

As of 1.3.2(the patch I did the run on),the skip that was used in rebcart's run to skip chapter 0 entirely by hitting load at last checkpoint right after hitting space twice was patched out

This created a big problem for me as it would basically add 2+ minutes to the run if it was timed at New Story, and I thought it would create an unfair disadvantage if I did New Story timing because of that 2 minute difference.

If anyone has a 1.2.0 patch of the game for download so I can do the skip in runs and not have to deal with that disdvantage I'd like if you could link it to me and if not,how we could try to figure a new timing method,again nothing huge but just wanted to clarify why I timed it the way I did in my 19:03 run

Recently Maiden of Black Water came out and I have an interest in speedrunning the game,is it ok if I request the game for the series' leaderboards,thanks. :)

Since there's a category where you save all 8 characters(All 8 Survive),I was experimenting with/thinking of the idea of a similar category where you kill all 8 characters instead of saving them,with the name of the category being"All 8 Dead" I'm still working on the route for this possible new category but I was wondering if we could add this category to the leaderboard,just putting it as a Misc. Category would be fine

I'm submitting Outlast for Damage Boost 2015(see here on the SDA Forums: https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/damage_boost_2015submission_deadline_august_3rd.html ),and if the game gets in,for my All Chapters or Any% run I'd really like if I could do a race with any of you guys or if not,have one of you guys commentate my run,whichever category gets in,it would really help as this is my first speedrun marathon ever and I have the slight fear of failure if I do it solo. Thanks for reading ^^ (EDIT July 17th: All Chapters got in)

Managed to complete a No OoB speedrun where I got every major trick,including the doorrides,and about finath's new ruleset for No OoB on both games,I like it,as since these tricks are allowed they can shave minutes off the category,as the above run by me shows

Also,on a slightly unrelated note,when I was practicing the OoB tricks for Whistleblower Any%,way back in January,I did some experimenting and routed and completed runs of a possible new category for WB This new category is essentially like"All Chapters"from the main game as it uses the same ruleset for main game All Chapters,but for WB. I feel that this could be added to the leaderboard as an easier alternative to running Any% as the really hard Vocational Block OoB from Any% is removed and instead the Groom Skips from 100% are used,Scary Mist Skip and the 2 doorrides are still done,also in Hospital there's a slight rerouting I did to where you do only the first part of the Any% route(where you boost up by loading the environment by pausing),after that the chapter is done as intended. I was kinda eh on the fence about mentioning this on the forums and I'd really like you guys' input on what you think about this,I'd really like if this new WB"All Chapters"category could be added to the leaderboard,either under misc. or shown categories

Managed to complete a Glitchless run of WB with 1 death,with the main game I still have some routing to do and things to be sure of

Since there's a No OoB leaderboard for both games now I figured I might as well post videos of some small strats that I found either myself or through YouTube videos. Didn't post videos of the ledge runs/ledge jumps or Scary Mist Skip since those tricks are already very well known 1st WB trick also works for 100% (EDIT: with the Manera Cutscene Skip you can use the one that's used in 100% because of the new No OoB rules that allow it,but if you want you can go with the tray clip as it and the doorride method save pretty much the same amount of time)

Yea probably,again I'd still have to test some things,in fact so far I already have a route in mind for WB since that game in No OoB doesn't have a whole lot of skips anyways,like the Manera cutscene skip and another smaller doorclip that saves 10 seconds,so I can omit those tricks

I also was kind of curious about the Scary Mist Skip from WB being considered as Out of Bounds or not,because if it isn't I could add that to the No OoB route and shave off some more time

and I think a"Glitch"would be considered doing: -any doorboosts/doorriding tricks,including those you would use in other categories to go out of bounds,this includes the Male Ward vent boost and the slight doorboost in Prison -save+exiting to skip cutscenes -clipping in any objects other than doors,such as the tall window in Female Ward or the cooking tray in Hospital in WB -slamming doors shut to be able to clip through them/shorten the animation,or guard yourself against the enemy in the Generator section in Admin Block So in other words,any trick that allows you to clip into doors,go out of bounds,and clip into other objects and walls I don't think ledge-jumping/running on ledges really counts as a glitch,since you don't really break the game in a big way by doing them,and you don't clip through objects by doing them either One trick that might be very debatable as being a glitch or not is definitely the Superman,because while it does skip a good chunk of Underground Lab,it also is not technically a"glitch"based on my above criteria,so I'll have to figure that out

I might try to do glitchless speedruns,just for fun tho and not really to grind attempts