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EnglandKyutora7 years ago

Recently it has come to light that aaaa_5656's WR run utilised the turbo function on a 3rd party controller. As the run is currently by far the fastest run on the leaderboard, it would seem inappropriate to remove the run based off of this usage, as the time turbo saves would not put it faster than any other run on the leaderboard, the decision has been taken to grandfather the run. However a note has been made on the comment on the run, and any future submissions that utilises turbo will be rejected regardless of time. Apologies this has not been dealt with sooner.

Thank you.

EnglandKyutora7 years ago

In the past week, a glitch was discovered by Geta92, involving stacking two textboxes on top of each other, allowing for interesting effects. These effects that are useful for speedrunning include wrong warps from Birdramon (warping to beneficial places such as Lava Cave and the basement of Grey Lords Mansion), buying glitch items both to "glitch" recruitments into the city that have not been done by regular means as well as setting certain triggers, such as accessing Mt. Infinity before reaching 50 prosperity points, as well as glitching the shops to buy generic items that are coded in the game.

This thread aims to discuss what to do with this glitch with regards to the categories. As mods, we want to hear your opinions, as well as stating our own such that the discussion is completely transparent between everybody. There are going to be three categories on the leaderboards, which are any% (anything goes within the ruleset currently put in place, i.e. no hardware manip/debug), a second category and 100 Prosperity, both of which are to be discussed.

Essentially, the category discussion has boiled down to two different scenarios with this second category and 100 Prosperity.

  1. Completely ban the use of the glitch, labelling the categories as "No Major Glitches". This naming convention would avoid confusion as to what is defined as a glitch in the current runs and what isn't, as well as not falling into the trap of calling it "glitchless" and having to ban if another beneficial glitch with slightly less game-breaking properties were to be discovered.

  2. Ban certain aspects of the glitch, primarily the setting of the trigger of being able to enter Mt. Infinity and the "fake recruitments", i.e. all 50pp would have to be recruited before entering Mt. Infinity in the second category and all 100 pp would have to be recruited from its source in the 100 Prosperity category.

Please feel free to discuss your opinions on either of these two options, as well as sharing if you have any other ideas on how to approach this that may not fall under either of these two options.

Thanks. Despite this being a discussion on categories (which seems to be notoriously hostile in a lot of speedrunning communities), I hope this can still be kept as civilised as possible!

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