Same. I don't like stirring the pot, but here this needed stirred.

Not every suggestion is right, and not everybody can be pleased.

But EVERYONE deserves to be heard. And most of the mods here definitely don't listen.

Bravo @runaway4444 for being the figurehead this community needs. Keep the good work up! And I also go with what @MagicK said. You should trim your mod team to 3-4 max. If you REALLY want to look good, I'd add @ShesChardcore to the team; she attempted to make this board a while ago and src denied her; she's a great voice and representative in the community.

It's really not that hard. Give the people what they want. If you aren't sure what they want, ask.

The mods' silence the last few days spoke volumes. That's why were upset.

Thank you @runaway4444 for at least making a diplomatic effort.

We did give constructive criticism. And you ignored it. 7 mods. And not one reason why no separate category was created. Not one reason why a mod made the Tetris run 5-lines and quickly threw a run up just so they could claim a WR. Not one reply to at least 4 people who asked about it. I suggest you DO find an experienced mod to help out. I moderate over 30 boards and have for over 3 years including one of the most popular speedruns on this site, and I offered to help, yet I was passed over without even so much as a no thank you. Completely ignored. I am no longer interested.

With all due respect, you all have a lot to learn.

The joke is in the fact that none of the mods will even address the comments in the forum. While I understand that this isn't a paid job, since questions were raised, 4 people were modded and a new category was created without a single reply. Just because you created the board doesn't make you the end-all voice of a community. You are supposed to listen to everyone and take everybody's opinion into account. The fact that nobody is responding to the concerns voiced in the forum speaks volumes.

I'm deleting mine as well. When the mods can either get it together or mod a respectable member of the community that will at least reply to questions, instead of ignoring them, perhaps I'll reconsider.

Good luck with your board. I hope to see improvement later on.

7 mods, but still no mention of why there's no 25 line category or anything.

I don't get it... It hurts nothing to have a separate board. This is ridiculous. You are actively denying competition by denying us a board where there is actual meat on the bone for us to compete for.

Is there a separate board for this, or would it fall under the NTSC-U board?

I apologize if I came on a bit hard there, but I will insist that mods take into account what the community wants to see from them, if they intend on representing a game that they'd like to cultivate into a community.

Any speedrunner that puts serious effort into this speedrun can easily get 25 lines. Denying that competition is shooting yourselves in the foot. At the very least, there should be another board.

Doing research on this, my runs tonight will be of the current Any% w/o Tetris rules, but for the w/ Tetris I'll be running to 25 lines. This seems very doable for anyone that is seriously speedrunning this; anyone that has the skill to beat Rad Racer and SMB1 in a reasonably quick effort (thus a speedrun) should be able to get in the 25 lines ballpark. Does anyone think this is an unreasonably difficult goal?

...yet ;)

I already commented on this in the other thread, but I think any% should have a goal for Tetris. I suggest a line goal or (as stated above) at least a tetris goal. A score goal is also a good idea.

You could then change the current any% to any% no tetris, to preserve the leaderboard

Just my 2 cents, but why not make a goal for Tetris that can be realistically met in an RTA scenario? Get 5 or 10 lines, get x points, etc.? Something like that that will allow Tetris to be a part of the challenge?

When I run this tonight I'd like to try that category out, but with a 10 line goal, to prove the concept. I think this way, the true challenge of the NWC would be honored, rather than an arbitrary end game that takes zero skill :)

I have a question: beat Tetris. What does that mean? In NWC you cannot "beat" Tetris, but in the real Tetris cart the only way to "beat" it is type B. I'm just curious what this rule means.

Are you folks open to any category suggestions? I plan on running this tonight and would love to explore new ways to do so.

I'd also love to help out with being a mod if possible. My resume includes moderating a ton of games including "The Legend of Zelda" .

done, go ahead and submit it :)

I have no problem with a new board being made if there is a time to submit to the board. If you complete a run let me know.

There is an existing leaderboard I'd like to link here for anyone that is curious. Rezovayix has been curating this leaderboard for a little over what, 2 years now? This leaderboard is seperate from the RTA boards, and as of now there's no plans to move it here (that might change eventually)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fF2bndrjO3ONyxjOCsHYji0HwoDGswaRTbDah42Fikw/edit#gid=0

It was brought to my attention that emulator runs might be different in this speedrun than console in some ways. I have no way to test this theory, and I cannot say for sure, but I wanted to ask everyone here. Is there anyone that will vouch for (or vote against) doing this?

This is an attempt at being transparent and open for the community to decide. I won't split the board if there's any opposition, unless there can be proof of a difference.

you can use emulators but there's a lot of them that aren't allowed. If you intend to use one, I recommend FCEUX, with Nestopia or Bizhawk being nice alternatives. I also recommend showing your inputs on stream, though that's optional. Otherwise have at it!

Hey all! What, in your opinions, are the best options to play this game today?

Will the original game work on a modern machine? Can it be emulated? Is there an alternative way to play it at all?

Thank you for your time :D I'll be learning this game eventually!

Anyone else been able to figure it out? I was close to being able to skip the boss on the bridge just before the dragon in the final Middle Ages stage. Did it 3 times in practice, never in a run.

Correct. TDO (Traditional Dungeon Order) is a glitchless category. As of now it's the only glitchless categories. There hasn't been enough interest (traditionally) to start a Glitchless Any% category leaderboard, but if enough people ran it, and there was a need for a board, we would certainly add one.