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ArgentinaIggyHopXD2 years ago

Hello! I'm making this thread because I wanted to ask a question about how the new version of the Randomizer with the randomized bosses would possibly affect the leaderboards here.

For context, a few weeks back the Geno Randomizer got updated to version 0.6.1, which adds an option to also include Undyne the Undying and Sans into the encounter pool. And while that is quite a nice option in my opinion, since it adds up to the fun and difficulty of the randomizer, it also made me think about how this option would be inevitably slower for speedruns in the leaderboards compared to runs in older versions or with said option toggled off, due to how long Undyne and Sans take be defeated compared to other random encounters.

So my question is, will there be a leaderboard split/new category added to differentiate between runs that allow Undyne and Sans to be randomized and those that don't, or will all runs still be kept under the same leaderboards regardless of the bosses being randomized or not?

In my opinion either splitting the leaderboards or making a new category would be a better solution, since not only would it prevent people from feeling discouraged to use the boss randomization option just because of Sans and Undyne being unavoidable timeloss when you get them randomly, but also it would allow people who already ran in older versions/without the randomized bosses to run with them on, too, as a separate speedrun, but I guess it's fine if that's not the case in the end, and obviously, it's up for the leaderboard mods to decide what they think is better to do. But that's my argument on why I think a leaderboard split for both options would be better.

I look forward to a response. Thanks! :)

ArgentinaIggyHopXD3 years ago

Hello! I'm making this thread because I wanted to ask a question about a specific category of the leaderboards, more specifically, about Any% in Bonus Island III (BI3 for short).

So, to give some context first, in versions 0.6.2 or earlier, Bonus Island III consisted of 2 separate parts: a snowy part, and a "secret" forest part, which could be accessed by beating the secret level "The Toilette Zone". Because of the latter being a secret island, the any% route for this category in said versions never required to visit it, so the run would just end as soon as you beat "The Dark Castle", the final level of the snowy section.

However, in the latest version of SuperTux (0.6.3), BI3 was actually changed up a bit, and now, the forest section is actually the continuation of the snowy part, which means that to get to the forest, you now have to first beat "The Dark Castle". So here's my question: Would this change mean that in 0.6.3 or later versions, the BI3 any% rules would be changed (so that now you have to beat the last level of the Forest area for any% instead), or would the run still end at "The Dark Castle" as it did in the earlier versions, no matter what?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! :)

O IggyHopXD
I speedrun cool games I like, not to be perfect, but to have fun. :)
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