Washington, USAHere is an update on that, with both of our current PB's
https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Bomberman/How_to_play
There are Bonus Items that exist in this game, and are those the items we are talking about? If so i need to remove my run from the All Items Leaderboard because it certainly doesn't collect those bonus Items
I am honestly not entirely sure what the rules are for this category, I assume you must grab the item on each stage, but the description states just grab one of each item like if you collect a fire up, then you don't ever need to grab another one. Can the community come together about this please and enlighten me with what is considered All Items?
Blasted that sub 50 son, and yea NG+ would have to be done on console i suppose, and it would require you to beat the game every time you would want to do a run. . . which seems like a pain in the ass that nobody wants to deal with
I read that in the game faq for the PS2 version that there are a lot of bugs and glitches. None that im aware of that help out in a speedrun but I found this:
yea i mean mammal was listed first for the longest time because that's all people did runs of, im just trying to break them out of that Mammal spell because it's the easier/slower category,
grats on recent PB, gonna have to finish polishing my bombs, come back and sub 50
It has been highly debated what the fastest Any% route for this game is. Any% is broken into 3 Categories (Dino,Bird,Mammal)
With very few runners (especially active) it is still not fully understood which is the fastest route. I can however Verify that Mammal is definitely the SLOWEST any% route at this point and time.
Mammal is however the most POPULAR route, given it has the most runners, and quite frankly one of the only categories that has multiple runners atm. (this could change in the future, but not much interest has been shown aside from my own)
Q: so why do so many people run Mammal?
A: The first RTA (Real-Time-Attempt(s)) of the game were documented to be done by DarkwingDuck_SDA. DarkwingDUCK_SDA mostly ran Mammal, and during that time it was believed that Mammal was the fastest route for an RTA speedrun (Non-TAS)
A fun Fact is that DWD also did runs of Bird a long while back, and the Bird route is Definitely the Fastest Any% route for a TAS (Tool-Assisted-Speedrun) of the game.
HOWEVER, DWD did not ever expirement with not upgrading DIno to either Bird or Mammal, which I have most recently discovered and argue that at this point and time DINO IS THE FASTEST RTA any% route a human can do.
So while I am pretty Well set on my claim that Dino is the fastest route for a human to run, it is still possible that Bird route might at some point be pushed to a level close to the Dino Route.
I definitely believe a Bird route RTA can surpass the time of a Mammal RTA, with a combination of RNG in your favor, along with good execution. I do not however believe a Human will be able to capitilize on all of the Time saves in Bird route that can be obtained in a TAS speedrun.
Take my Bird PB atm 49:38 (tied with DWD's Mammal run) it got the Rainbow meat during the oyster grind, which saved a significant amount of time, however New strats are coming about and riskier strats that I am definitely aware of are out there that can save time in lots of places.
I will List the Categories in order in which RTA runs are faster, so if Bird surpsasses Mammal in the future I will Swap them.
My belief is that the leaderboards will at some point be :
DINO > BIRD > MAMMAL
as of now based on the best times listed on the leaderboards it is currently
DINO > MAMMAL > BIRD
So in conclusion, ik i dropped alot of knowledge in this forum, but as the Supermod of this page I WILL ALWAYS LIST FASTEST RTA ANY% Categories FIRST!!
New Game + and 100% record evolutions I feel are big enough categories to where they should be listed as major categories as opposed to MISC categories.
All Misc categories were exclusively made to showcase parts of the games that WERE NOT SEEN in all of the main categories.
Hope this helps with understanding why so many categories, why no straight up ANY% category, and primarily why they are listed in the order that they are.
has been 5 months since I submitted a run to Street fighter 2010 leaderboard, the mods do not seem at all active, I do not want mod at all myself but somebody active needs to verify runs thank you!
yea I submitted a run 5 months ago, still hasn't been verified, something should be done like adding an active mod
I have the Japanese version of this game, it's called Rune 2 in Japan. Why only US and Pal on the Leaderboards, the JP Version is legit
going to pick up this game soon, Glitchless meaning no Item dupe should definitely be on the leaderboards. All Stages should also be there. 100% should be collect one of each item, not sure if some weapon drops must be found at random, or a certain story line must take place, 100% rules are open to discussion but I would imagine it would include unlocking all characters, not entirely sure if having one of each class should be acquired.
so Plz update the leaderboards at least for adding Glitchless + All Stages/true ending
RPGodfather: 48:54 VS. DarkwingDuck: 49:38 PB Comparison
6.9sec plus I have Mane already which DWD has to get later as well which is more time save on my end later
to be fair this doesn't look like DWD's best segment here but it's confirmed from what i can see that my strat is faster and more consistent
Birdman Castle:
He also has a run for Any%. That run should not be accepted on the leaderboard. However it's not like it says in the rules atm that anything is banned so that needs to be talked about. The thing is if his run is allowed, then other people will think it's okay to run Zsnes and im positive that it doesn't emulate lag properly and can save time on the actual hardware which means WR can be beaten on Zsnes because it runs faster
Zsnes doesn't emulate lag properly and is banned for speedruns. Runs on Zsnes should not be allowed
Okay so I personally think it makes perfect sense because of 2 reasons.
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The Value of the Crystals in game
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Just straight up best color to worst color.
The Green Crystal is the most useful crystal in a speedrun because it allows you to use previous evolutions, allowing you to defeat bosses without grinding and slow rollin things.
The Blue Crystal gives you different EXP values, which makes things Significantly faster in Chapter 1 with the 500EXP u get to buy the Fin with, which u would probably have to grind elsewhere costing 3ish min or go in Raw with doing 1dmg to the shark or with whatever EXP u get from Yellow dolphins.
The Red Crystal doesn't really have much use at all in the speedrun, only time it is seen in a run is when u are getting MantaRay/Eel, unless of course you are doing 100% Record all evolutions. The Red crystal is not completely useless but not super useful either.
The Yellow Crystal is entirely useless, and only offers hints/text that slows things down. Yellow is without question the worst of the 4, and represents the slow rollin not even top 3 runner.
Overall IMO even without the crystal values, my favorite colors between the 4 would still be Green > Blue > Red > Yellow which is ironic that the value of the crystals is exactly the same as my preference in color :)
