Earlier today I was making my Any% TAS when I was trying to do the 8-4 pipe clip. While failing to clip to the pipe where everyone does it, I found out that if you go to the top left corner of the gray bricks on the bottom of the pipe you can jump off those and make it to the top of the pipe.

Go to 4:40 on this link to see the clip. I don't know if this is something new or has been used for a while now but may be easier to get the clip. "BUT this was from a TAS that I made so it COULD be impossible, but I doubt it. I'll have to see if it's possible for a human.

It's possible but loses like 10 frames.

@Mars02 that stairs is bad i can tell you an easier start that saves like 3 more frame rules than what you did.

just run down the stairs but without holding b and once your on the first step (not standing on it) start holding b and jump off the last step after 1 frame of landing on it. this takes about 10 trys to get the hang of and do it every single time!

I'm confused on what you're talking about because the only stairs in 8-4 are at the very beginning. This is the 2nd room we're talking about.