any opinions?
you can specify casual runs, or speedrun categories, or difficulty in achieving a wr.
just curious. im new to the community btw
This question cannot really be answered (and it's been asked before I think).
You simply cannot accurately compare games across genres, or sometimes even within the same series, to accurately determine a "hardest" game - even if it is only opinion. "Hard to get WR" isn't a definable metric, because a game or run being "hard" also can't be defined. Every person will find something harder than someone else. Imagine a conversation like this:
Runner 1: "WR in Ocarina of Time Any% is the hardest speedrun" Runner 2: "It's not hard, I just got a new WR yesterday".
What has this discussion accomplished? It certainly doesn't answer the question of whether it's hard to get WR in OOT Any%, nor does it even measure how hard the run is. Maybe runner 1 found it so hard because they can't time inputs very good, but lots of other players can time their inputs very well. It's not even really opinion based since difficulty can come from a variety of things - ignorance on routing, ignorance on skill, lack of skill, lack of rhythm - the list is endless. Some of those things are correctable, some aren't. Sometimes a little practice changes how hard you view something.
At the end of the day, the hardest game/run will probably be in any genre of game that you don't like or aren't very good at. I'm awful at First Person Shooters so I'd say the hardest run is probably something within that genre. But that doesn't mean much because I could crush out a 10 hour run of an RPG where a lot of people might find that the hardest run because they can't focus that long. It's just way to open of a topic to find any consensus.
If you're talking about runs that are hard because of their current level of optimization, where WR might involve 1000s of grinded attempts, that's a different story and you could probably find a few of those types of runs, especially in shorter games/categories.
There are indeed several threads with similar questions, and as Timmiluvs said - Difficulty is subjective, and each runner will experience a game or speedrun in a different way.
Exist threads for example: https://www.speedrun.com/speedrunning/thread/gyjqe https://www.speedrun.com/speedrunning/thread/fyyur https://www.speedrun.com/speedrunning/thread/f8vhe