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Shiga, JapanYuushi2 years ago

Why are you so angry? Calm down, Let's have a constructive discuss. We are not attacking your country, and now we are talking about the re4 timers.

First of all, the new LRT and IGT are two completely different things. Since the new LRT removes load time, the difference in time between the new LRT and the current LRT is caused by the presence of frame drops. In short, just don't frame drop.

And you said that the leaderboard is for everyone, then why can you say that our proposal is bad when there are so few tests? I talked about the test results, but that was only to clarify what the reference time would be if frame drop didn't cause, not to say that the new LRT is correct. And I don't think that all our tests are correct. So can we at least run more tests before we talk about it? As sawken has shown us, we know the problem with the current LRT. If you really want everyone to be happy, then I think you should.

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Shiga, JapanYuushi2 years ago

I'm against continuing the current LRT. Sawken has already expleined the problems with the current LRT, but that's not all:

  1. There are low-spec PC runners who are advantaged by the current LRT and high-spec PC runners who are disadvantaged. It's common to need a high-spec PC for a speedrun of a PC games, as was the case when we were using IGT, but If you intentionally cause frame drops, the time will be even more inaccurate because "fake time save" are more likely to give. "LRT bug gives high-spec PC runners an disadvantage." This is an unusual situation not only for us, but for new runners as well. Because most of them will be preparing a high-spec PC to run this game, but as it is, it's pointless.

  2. Current LRT can be easily cheated by anyone. Since we are now using a frame counter, asl (timer script) is doing the time calculation. Look at the following image.

https://gyazo.com/f65aab8b3ed1c15a9bfb05be6bd3590b

As you can see, formulas are written. (frameCount * 16.6666) What do you think would happen if you rewrote these numbers? As you may have guessed, that would mean rewriting the timer method itself. Even a non-programmer like me can manipulate time by just rewriting a few of the numbers. The biggest problem is, this is hard to find out, and I think it's worse than any of the cheating with trainers. And the only way to remove this formula is to remove the frame counter feature. I heard this from Wipe (the developer of the current LRT). And he said that the frame counter should be removed because the current LRT bugs are difficult to fix.

Next, I would like to share my opinion about the new LRT. When several people were asked to compare the current LRT with the new LRT, the difference was about 10-12 seconds for 3 out of the 5 people tested in the Main Game category. From this, I thought that if you don't have dropped frames (Except for load time), there is a difference of about 10 seconds. And I think you should make sure that frame drop don't happening when there's more time loss than this. Without wanting to sound rude but just like in any other sport if you can't compete you need to upgrade your rig.

You all think that using the new LRT will be a pay to win and that's true, but it's better than IGT and it's not that difficult to create an environment where frame drops don't cause. Most importantly, the current LRT bug has so many uncertainties that it's not even clear when it will happen or what will cause it. So I would recommend the new LRT, which is fairer than the current LRT with it's unstable bugs, as long as frame drops don't cause.

Thank you very much for reading my opinion through to the end.

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Shiga, JapanYuushi2 years ago

No, IGT is pay-to-win and should not be used.

I finished canyon 0.133 after Sawken, but the LRT is showing +0.61. Therefore, there is a blank 0.477 in the LRT. I want to know what this time difference is due to.

In addition, I compared Sawken's and Shimarisu's videos, and they have similar problems.

Shiga, JapanYuushi2 years ago

I'm 0.6 seconds slower than Sawken, but the video is almost finished at the same time. Why is that?

Shiga, JapanYuushi4 years ago

I think video will be proof that there is no irregularity for the runs. It's my mistake but I think that we have to discuss it with the moderators.

Shiga, JapanYuushi4 years ago

Could you tell me the reason why I need to save at the final typewritter for the runs, please?

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