I'm fairly positive it isn't allowed to submit runs on that difficulty but you can probably train/practice on this difficulty then jump on the appropriate one to set a time.

What do you want to run atm? Monsters damage output isn't that high (except melee) imo but it's true that IWADs runs all have really tough beginning but it gets easier afterwards, so it's fine to die a lot.

You can always try playing NoMo to learn how to navigate some levels properly as less time spent on a level = less damage taken. You can also train Ultimate Doom with only E1-E3. Those are nowhere near as tough as E4.

From what I know, ITYTD in BD v21 is the same as Wussy in BD v19 which is the most runned version of the game (source: https://www.speedrun.com/brutal_doom/thread/7dxqs ).

I haven't tried speedrunning BD in v21 so it's possible that I'm wrong here but I don't think there is any kind of a major difference between those two versions. You should be fine with running v21 on ITYTD.

Welcome here! :)

Just for confirmation, 100% is indeed 100% kills and 100% secrets. 100% items isn't required because that would make it very tiresome.

The best thing to do will probably be to play it on UV/HMP-equivalent in BD. Wussy is kinda lame for a 100%, although that's only my opinion so you're free to run whatever difficulty you want.

Also there is a discord for BD speedrunning, it's not very active but it can help: https://discord.​gg/Y6jxbnN

To play Brutal Doom, first you'll need a sourceport: in this case, either GZDoom (https://zdoom.org/downloads) or Zandronum (https://zandronum.com/). GZDoom is probably the better choice though.

Second you'll need the IWADs (basically the mapsets, textures... of the game) to play/speedrun which mean buying Ultimate Doom or Doom 2 or Final Doom on your favorite gaming platform.

Finally you'll need Brutal Doom: there is a lot of versions basically everywhere on the internet. The latest version is V21 (https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-beta). The most runned version is V19 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/cpu3x42q58va416/brutal19.pk3). You can play any version really but I'll personally stick to those two only.

Drop the .wad and the BD.pk3 files into your sourceport folder and you should be set. :)

I don't know what you are all about since it is easily doable in 5s in both Brutal and vanilla DOOM lol

Every IWADs have some really nasty parts so running them on UV makes runs rather tedious and (very) slow.

You can try Ultimate Doom without Episode 4 but it is nearly the same as on Wussy for E1-E3. Other IWADs are highly "retarded" on UV because of their early levels.

Personnally I would rather go for 100% UV ILs as it is a lot shorter and much more enjoyable than anything else on that difficulty. Plutonia map23 is my personal fav in that case. The bigger TNT maps are nice aswell.

Also the "speedrunning scene" for this game is close to unexistant (mods are still active though) so it largely up to you to decide whatever you want to run or not. You can simply list your times here imo

As I have said four months ago, I am fine with a discord but I am not going to be very active on it to put it simply. Even moreso now that I am quiet done with speedrunning this game (for a while at least). I have joined it and I will try my best to be here.

Sorry, I didn't know that you were able to keep your inventory in between episodes: I've always thought it was somewhat like Scythe. But it does make sense to have a single category for this if that's the case, even if it is way too long for me... :p

I assume the starter pack is 30-ish levels aswell with 3 differents episodes but afaik the levels were made with jumping in mind. It is then safe to say that there isn't a single cheap cut which lets you finish a level in mere seconds like the older WADs (E4M3...) and that's why it would take much longer to finish. Just my two cents though, I can't be sure of that.

I never runned but isn't the starter pack very long, something around 45-50mn? Spliting it into 3 episodes would be better imo

Thank you, I am not going to go for ILs myself but that it is appreciated.

Afaik there is no Discord server for Brutal Doom speedrunning but considering how small its scene is, I am unsure of its necessity atm. I am not a big fan of Discord myself tbh although if it can helps people getting into it, why not creating one.

Hi,

I don't use software such as WSplit or LiveSplit so I can't help much here.

Though, I wanted to say that you can still use the ingame timer during the intermission screen. You just have to quickly check your time every few levels so you know if you are on a good pace. Alternatively, depending on the source port you are using, you can go into your HUD settings and have total time displayed at all time on screen. Both solutions are way easier to setup than splits and there is no time losses compared to software.

Hope that helped you although it wasn't really what you asked for.

Welcome here to both of you!

As far as my knowledge goes, v21 isn't very different from v19/v20 when it comes to speedrunning. The only different thing would be the fact you are able to carry barrel around in the v21 which could possibly save a few seconds on D1/E1M6. Otherwise a few really minor gameplay changes iirc but no big deal.

Also, mods have been inactive for a while now so don't expect much sadly. But you can still speedrun the game on your own and fun with it. I have been messing around for a few months now and it is cool going through some WADs really quickly.

Anyway, hope to you see around in the future with (hopefully) some runs! ;)

Here is my 'test' run of Brutal Plutonia:

GL HF with that one! ;)

I never played it but it looks okay so far. I second this. I saw you run it on UV so you might aswell ask for an UV category as most people here run on Wussy difficulty for the fastest completion time possible. I will probably ask for an UV category for each IWADs in the future because Wussy is for pussies tbh.

It is cool to see some others runners here! :)

That would be also cool if there are some others players to fill the leaderboard ofc. I don't want to be alone on that one. Plutonia is such a great wad to speedrun, it is both challenging in its difficulty and its tricks. It is much more entertaining that Ultimate Doom/Doom 2 imo so it would be a shame to not cover it.

Hi everyone.

I am currently working on my route for 'Brutal Plutonia' and I should be able to get a 'Wussy single-segment' run done by the end of the month. So is there any chance to see the leaderboard with a Plutonia category in the future? That would be great!

Thanks and keep on running! ;)