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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

Hey welcome to Hellpoint speedrunning! Glad we have a new runner. I watched some of your run and wanted to say if you wanted to keep your route basically the same but take out the axion farm theres a way to glitch axions right after the first boss. If you bring an enemy close to that breach and then start leveling up while the enemy kills you and then you accept the level up after the screen says you died, you get the level up and then drop your axion pile (minus whatever axions you had left over that couldnt go into levels) essentially doubling your axions every time

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

LOL the clock strat for nervous wiring

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

Will figure out a better spot for this but heres the new discord for hellpoint speedrunning! https://discord.gg/PuXsYtqUqw

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

so if you cancel the effigy warp with an action it appears to be frame perfect. I was messing with it and only got it a few times and my last try out of desperation I tried alt tabbing and it worked and its super free, if you are running on console and cant alt tab I'm not sure what would be equivalent, maybe dashboarding on ps4 but not closing the game?

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

:') its ok

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

Thats great always glad to have more runners interested! Ahh yeah it can be tricky, for ozy I discovered it actually in thespian feast by just holding back while dropping. eventually I got it really consistent by holding back and then hitting dodge once or twice when I land to get as far away as I could really quickly. its just an invisible circle around him that detects you and you have to be outside of it.

for the cube there are a few different ways to activate it in that version of the game, any action that cant be cancelled while the warp is supposed to happen will cause the glitch, it was discovered by players getting hit right when the warp was supposed to happen, jumping at the right time will also work. but for some reason, if you activate the warp and start running, as long as you run for longer than the warp takes to activate and then end that running by jumping it will cause the glitch as well. so that is the way that makes the most sense for speedrunning.

hopefully I can gather some footage and put some videos together in the next few days and ill post them here! glad to help in any way I can

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

Nah I'm not sure why it didn't catch on. I may have started running it when most of the other runners lost steam for speedrunning the game and really only jungle and raaikken were still running the full game any%. I think its a really fun short run and it is a really good warm up for learning the full game if that is your interest, the glitches are sort of the same. The cube glitch is fixed now in current patch (rip) but you can still make the gltich work just in a slower way. I plan on making some short videos in the near future about the glitches in hellpoint but id say for now there was another thread about getting started in hellpoint where jungle posted a video going through the full game route that may be helpful and then I did a breakdown video of jungles WR talking about the glitches and the route. Feel free to post here for any more specific questions, we would be glad to help

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

Yes, I am unbeatable and inevitable

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE2 years ago

Hey super glad you have interest in speedrunning hellpoint! I think the video posted by jungle is probably a great resource, I also have a video reacting to the IGN video of jungles current WR where i explain some stuff about the run while its happening. I figure both our videos hopefully cover all aspects of the run lol but if not we are here to answer any questions you may have!

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

Hey fellow runners, I've been thinking of adding some new categories to help bring back some more interest, fun, and variety into running this game. Would anybody be interested in a NG+ reach 100% data run? Since NG+ can literally just be run straight to the end we'd have to put in something to make it require bosses. Do any of you have any cool categories in mind? I'd love to bring the fun back into running this game for everyone<3

Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

I believe it's just saying you can't set up a macro to do a complex input for you, such as move swap on prepare to die or something like wrong warp or item dupe on remaster. basically just use your controller as intended, not sure if it's saying no button remapping allowed because I think I've seen runners remap buttons for certain parts of runs but not 100% sure

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

Not necessarily ideal but I asked on reddit if anybody knew how to make an in game timer and somebody made a quick mod that gets the job done. Unfortunately does not apply to livesplit but will put a timer up in the top left corner until the game is fully closed

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hellpoint/comments/j0iubu/ingame_timer/

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

The monolith way of doing the glitch still works. So I'm not sure what to do about the routes that are currently posted but are not the launch version of the game or the current patch, but I think everything in Any% should be moved into a separate category because current patch can actually still be fun and run with the glitch and the unpatched one is basically what it was before the glitch was "fixed"

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

Great find! I heard about this but wasn't exactly sure how it was performed. I personally feel like it's not a glitch, I think it's a feature because it's in place for plunging attacking enemies but leaving in the invulnerability when an enemy isn't there is more of an oversight and not a glitch. My vote would be to allow it in Glitchless but I'd like to hear what others think

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

I think that could work, but there might be ways of doing the glitch post-patch. I heard rumor that it can be done with monoliths but I never tried it, if that worked before the patch they may have not fixed it.

Dark Souls 1 separates it's Any% into 3 categories, one with a major skip allowed, one with a minor skip allowed, and one with no skips. We'd just have to figure out a good way to define the categories and way to separate runs that have already been posted

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

Hey everybody, with the new patch comes the official death of the invincibility glitch. With that, Any% needs to be separated into different categories to account for people, like myself, that still want to run routes using the glitch. My question to you all is what do you think would be the best way of doing that? So far I just have it separated into current patch and unpatched, but even with that I'm not sure if the Any% runs that were done before this patch need to be moved out of current patch or not. Would love to hear some thoughts from you

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

Testing with the white prophet hand it's absolutely not worth using, the only good ability takes forever to unlock. The cube seems to be the best and does around triple the damage of the railgun per hit. I believe at base railgun does 14 per hit but cube does 13 per bolt that hits and takes no stat investment to use cube. I'm going to do some more attempts today but yesterday I was just testing and using the staff and investing in the stats for that and then just leveling the cubes conductor instead of leveling foresight seems to be a good move as long as you are still doing Ozy first which is how I'm trying it. It's annoying because it's totally plausible to just do officer glaive and go all melee but the Ozy fight is a nightmare

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

I'll be looking into it as well, I'm most likely going to focus on glitchless any% until I get a time I'm happy with for that. I'm going to test white prophet hand and see if it's better than railgun. I feel like the recent update changed my clock though so getting the prophet hand will be annoying to have to wait for before starting a run since it uses black hole doors, my game used to start at high noon and be pretty close to black hole hour from the start but now my game starts at the end of the left hell hour at around 9 so I'm not sure why that was changed

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Michigan, USAHELLKITE3 years ago

If you do Arisen Dominion early and get leech enhancer that could make the ranged more viable but yeah I actually am not very up to date on the highest dps strats for normal play at this point. I did one playthrough and used the axe and then immediately started doing Any% lol. Is the white prophet hand any good? I've been thinking about trying it for glitchless any% because you can get it so early but I'm not sure if its better than railgun because the grenade launcher ability on railgun is busted. What cubes are best? I know the one seems decent that is used in Impulse's run but it's just so out of the way especially for any%

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