Is there any room for intended or glitchless runs within this game at all? i see the any% and understand the game has a lot of OOB exploits, is there room where glitchless category could be added to show game ran as intended?
Seconded, recently earned 100%, but want to keep going. With this “going” I'd like to make a speedrun, but there's just no glitchless, and that's no fun tbh with that type of gameplay~
My position has always been that, I'm open to glitchless, as long as the people requesting the category actually write a ruleset for it that is broadly agreeable among others who want to run it, and clear enough for the moderators to enforce without going back and asking the original runners 5 years from now when they may not even actively run or care. I don't want to run glitchless so I don't know what glitchless runners actually want.
Is there listing currently available on what glitches or exploits are actively used at all?
Happy to piece something together as I appreciated it was suggestion made and well work needs to be on those requesting it to make it as easy as possible.
Some things to consider would be stuff like, is being out of bounds inherently banned, even if no glitches were used to get there? Is using ripper mode to increase your velocity inherently banned? Is using ripper blade mode to slow down time inherently banned?
I don't actually expect you to individually answer these, but they should be considered in your ruleset.
Is ending Ray's jump early a glitch?
Is using polearm jump without going out of bounds a glitch?
Is using ripper mode to make falling lightning go farther a glitch? If so, why or why not polearm jump.
Is using ripper blade mode to skip a fight a glitch?
Is getting around this one guy's detection a glitch?
Is triggering this elevator to open early a glitch?
Is jumping from one roof to another, skipping 3 fights, a glitch?
Is skipping boss phases by precisely manipulating their health while knocked down a glitch?
Is skipping boss phases by using entirely normal mechanics like, the boss can't jump away while staggered, or the boss can't jump away during a certain attack, a glitch?
Is skipping boss phases simply by hitting them very very hard a glitch?
Is pressing Z during a cutscene a glitch?
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I am actually using all those questions as a baseline to determine whether its worth just considering restricted instead of the term glitchless I will have a ruleset issued over throughout today. Happy to assist on the work front to help open up more runs for the game.
New game file run starting from R-00 through to the end of R-07.
Fresh file only. Timing starts from selecting "No" to "Play Tutorial?" and ends on the final zandatsu on Armstrong.
RTA Timing only.
Played on the ****** difficulty.
- OOB are restricted within this category
- Use of polearm to avoid intentional interactions such as R-01 first enemy interaction.
- Use of Ripper Blade mode to Skip Fights prohibited
- Avoiding Triggers Prohibited
List of Items are not considered under glitches
- Manipulation of boss health to skip phases
- Grabbed by armstrong to interupt a phase.
- skipping phases by hitting boss with high damage output
- Using boss fight mechanics such as they cannot jump away whilst staggered or during certain attacks.
this was my thoughts open to input, boss fights manips and understanding the fight I feel it may not be intended by devs but it is not a glitch just high level gaming
To me, the category you're requesting is more like No Major Glitch than Glitchless. It's difficult to tell the time deceleration and strike distance extension abilities of ripper mode are normal game mechanics or glitches.
For example, RM(Ripper Mode) falling lightning is a useful skill in combat to approach enemies quickly, meanwhile it can be used to skip some mandatory combats. We may ban its usage scenario rather than the skill itself.
Considering the confusions and troubles we might have when determining a completely glitchless category, I would prefer your thoughts. Trying to summarize the banned list you want:
* Any out of bound glitch is banned.
* Any mandatory combat skip is banned.
* R-01 bridge skip is banned.
It should have covered all the major skips, please add below if anything is missing.
I was in 2 minds whether to use that terminology overall but yes i would say no major glitches would be ample solution gives a chance for new runs within the game and for those who do not want to take on the oob strats to show off what the game does. I can look to piece a run together for the no major glitches this week if something for submission would be beneficial for demonstration purposes
I will do a run this evening then haha
appreciate the willing to open more categories appreciate the time you all take with these.