Mod note: Retimed, non-gauntlet runs start from fade in and finish on the fade to black on the final cutscene. Starting time was approximated, please include a bit of footage from the previous reset next time.

Currently the No Artifacts category is restricted to Monsoon only, with the idea of it replicating a "vanilla" run you might do casually or see most content creators play.

The opinions on this among the mod team are fairly split, so we figured the best way forward would be to ask the community, what do you think? Should it be kept to Monsoon? Should we allow Drizzle? Maybe have both as a subcategory?

The rules say modifications are not allowed, so modifications are not allowed. This rule is more lax for the Gauntlet category since that one was originally ran with mods but all other categories must be done on a vanilla copy of the game. There are ways of speeding up resetting without mods, a quick reset mod really isn't necessary.

Since this topic turned out to be much more controversial and spawned a much larger discussion than I initially expected, I figure another thread is in order.

Now, this thread is meant to act more like a poll than an actual discussion thread (wouldn't you know it src doesn't have anything for polling the community, what a great website). I want all posts here to simply state your preference and a brief explanation of why you take your stance. Any actual discussion about it should be done either in the previous thread or on discord.

As far as I'm concerned, we have 3 options to how to proceed:

• Simply allow using an optimized savefile
• Allow using an optimized savefile but add a variable tracking whether one was used, so that they can be filtered out
• Require a completed savefile

Non-runner votes will not be considered, whatever the majority decides on will be the rule.

When it was originally created, the Gauntlet category was meant to be as close to replicating the racing ruleset as possible, while still being fun to run. This worked for most racers who were interested in the category, however some base game speedrunners as well as newcomers don't seem to agree with the mod requirement.

The proposed solution is to allow Vanilla E8 Lunarless runs on the Gauntlet board, with the caveat that while still timed with IGT, they cannot enter the bazaar, else the run will be timed with real time.

The main discrepancy then between modded and vanilla runs at the top level becomes the presence of Fogbound Lagoon, as other modded features like +5s don't matter for top runs, though they do make the category more accessible for less consistent players.

Another idea that was brought up to make the Gauntlet run more in line with other categories is to allow savefile manipulation as well as toggling off the DLC, allowing the removal of some bad items to make runs more consistent. If this rule is accepted the mod will need to be updated to accomodate for it, if not, vanilla runs will need to verify a complete savefile after every run.

Please discuss in this thread. I am aware discord is easier for quick communication but talking about it here makes it much easier to look back on and reference again. Especially with the community being split across the racing and speedrunning discord servers, having all discussion take place in one spot makes my life as a moderator much easier.

For sure, but let's settle on something here first.

An idea came up in the racing discord server to integrate some sort of seed preview into the gauntlet mod, letting you scope out the seed before playing.

With the Gauntlet category requiring playing on a completed savefile, and the meta being defined by pillar skip equipments, it makes grinding runs for the low chance of finding a skip rather frustrating. A seed preview would also make runs a little more like races, where the loadouts and stage order is known before playing.

Modding the game to preview the seed would be considered pretty iffy by most roguelike speedrunning communities, but I believe there could be some merit in allowing it here.

Keep in mind, no tool for this exists yet. Still, I'd like to hear what the community thinks. Should we allow something like this? Should it be allowed here on the main boards, or maybe make a new board on the category extensions page for it? What are, in your mind, the pros and cons of allowing a mod like this for speedruns?

This would of course apply only to the Gauntlet category.

It is required.

This forum post sparked a discussion in the speedrunning server, which led to the creation of a current patch category. Enjoy :)

https://www.speedrun.com/ror2/news/4200

please refer to the FAQ thread -> https://www.speedrun.com/ror2/thread/itm2h

This seems like more of a challenge you do once for fun rather than a speedrun category lol

@diggity I was referring to the inconsistency of it saying "Time" when an IGT column is present and "RTA" when a time without loads column is present. It should say the same for both.

I think LRT is a stupid acronym, I find "loadless" is the more generally accepted and popularized term. It would be better to use that if you insist to use speedrun lingo on the boards, imo.

The visual overhauls seem unnecessary to me, still looks worse than how it was before the elo takeover I think. I like the new filtering options though! The link changes and pages are welcome additions aswell.

The change to using acronyms for real time and in-game time feel really unnecessary, not to mention wtf is "LRT"? I've never seen anyone outside of like a handful of communities use it and it feels strange to impose it on everyone. Moreover, the real time column only says "RTA" if time without loads is enabled, but still says "Time" if IGT or neither are enabled. I think this should be reverted to how it was previously.

The rules formatting is broken? The # sign used to make the text bigger, now it just shows up as normal. https://imgur.com/sz3WbJJ

please refer to the FAQ thread -> https://www.speedrun.com/ror2/thread/itm2h

Yeah this is a known issue with the speedrun patch of the game, for some reason the game tends to run at 50 fps when playing in multiplayer on modern systems.

One fix we figured out is if you have an nvidia graphics card going into the nvidia control panel and set ror's max framerate to 120 fps, it seems to run at 60 pretty consistently. I'm not sure about amd cards, but I think someone in the discord server has figured something out for those too.

For the record, we have verified IGT on runs that run at 50, so technically it's fine to play like that if you don't care about your RTA and you do get a bit of an advantage since the game is running slower giving you more reaction time, but of course fixing it would be preferable.

1. You are free to choose the patch you play on, I believe the record is done on 1.0 with the fewest required unlocks. We may end up adding a subcategory that includes DLC if a 100% run with it is completed but so far there's been little interest unsurprisingly.

2. I don't believe we ever established a maximum break duration, but it is meant to be a sleep break, so feel free to take as long as you need, just don't take a week between parts of the run. You don't need to stream or record the break time, just make sure to show off the entire log at the end of the first segment and beginning of the second one.

Good luck if you actually end up attempting this lol.

character boards have been added

its only in the full release, not the demo. demo runs arent accepted on the leaderboard since they have no ending

turn on the speedrun setting in options

I made this :)