Good Day,

I am inquiring about a run that my friends and I submitted that was not verified. We submitted a run for the "Der Reise 4P Co-Op Song" for Call of Duty World at War that was not approved by the moderators and then when we inquired about the validity of the run and try to get a clarified explanation, were banned from the discord associated with the Call of Duty World at War speedrunning community. Our run (link at the end of post) although not the best optimized run satisfies all of the rules presented forth by the speed run rules for this category. Our timing may be off, and I'd be happy to go into the footage to provide a frame perfect timing for legitimacy.

Our run was denied under the three following claims:

• The run was too long of a run compared to first place
• It is comparably slower than other runs of the category but with less players
• Not putting in your best effort (as stated from the codzombies rules thread)

Our run satisfied the first two claims with no problems. We were the only run to be submit to this category, thus having no comparable runs in first place to base off of. We would be first. Secondly, Our run is about 100% slower than the three player and two player runs respectively. Other runs for different categories are over 200% slower and have been verified as legitimate runs. Our run, although considered slow, is not slow enough nor incompetent enough to warrant being unverified and banned. The last point is up for debate. My friends and I are new to speedrunning and our methods aren't as good as what they could be. Our run although not the theoretical best in the world is far from being an egregious outlier and we would happily welcome others to beat our time so that we may try to compete for a world record time.

Lastly I believe the moderators have been unfair in their actions regarding my friends and I trying to have a discussion about the validity of our speedruns. Being new to speedruns there are many things we must learn and get better from, but from our first legitimate run there was no reason to be outright banned from the World at War speedrunning community nor the discord associated with. We provided legitimate counterarguments and claims as to why our run is valid as it doesn't break any rules. We feel that this shouldn't be what the speedrunning community represents, as it should be more inviting and willing to help those that are aiming to get their foot in the door in the world of speedrunning.

Thank you for reading and I hope you understand our position and feelings on the matter discussed! Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns on the matter! -sbeve

Here are links to our speedrun and the conversation we had with the moderators of the World at War speedrunning community. There are some holes in the screenshots as I was not able to get everything, but I tried to explain the context as best as possible. https://imgur.com/a/t3Fcybx