on ILs, xbox and ps3 are the same in terms of what can be done. I've done WRs on both consoles, in fact. It's just that most of the more serious time trialers focus on PS3 because its easier to do faster times there. Noting that a player played on one or the other is good though. I'll try to get more people in the Discord too.

I dont know about removing Evil's run, but I dont think he would mind too much, he doesn't play anymore.

The reverse trick is frowned upon by a lot of people, mostly the old-school players. Some guys have used it, but it gets really annoying to reverse over and over just to crash into the first wall. Runners dont enjoy that lol. Canyon detonator though? Go for it!

Yeah, PSP can be there... but you won't see a run for a while lol. And yeah, Lucky is a mod so he has final say on that

Also worth noting: No one plays the PSP version of the game, no one. Even the cars in the game drive differently, its not really the same game at all. Noting times as being on xbox and ps3 are important too, as the PS3 controller is actually preferred by many as being a superior controller for this game compared to xbox.

If you want, I formally request being a moderator for this game, but if 3 is enough, I'm fine with just being a runner. I'll be more active in the future, I promise! ;)

Hey guys, Rusty here.

Sorry about my inactivity, SRC isnt a primary focus of mine atm since S/S has been dead on this site. As a player of this game for 5 years, I want to make a few clarifications to what's been said here.

Firstly, Xbox and PS3 times should be different for full game runs. In my experiences, my Xbox and PS3 runs for detonator are actually almost 2 min different, with Xbox being faster by a lot (didnt record so not on the boards). This may be because my console is trash but who knows, will require further testing.

Second point: This game is not dead by any means. The SRC site is "dead", but that's because no main members of the S/S community use it. Mostly, they simply post their stuff to Youtube. There's an old facebook group that has been used since the game came out, in game chats, whatsapp, etc, so most people have stayed in their own places instead of branching out here. Many of my times that are on the site aren't even the real WRs, with players like CutandPlay, Digital Dope, and Brizzity having better times than my own. I'll do my best to get people to transfer here though.

Thirdly, we actually have a discord server! I've been trying to get one started for this game for a while now, but no one had really made it active until the past couple months. You can join it here (and I'll give you two src mod roles) https://discord.gg/GyecmQ

Also, deadline doesn't even really deserve a category here. The timer runs down, as you know, but its faster than doing a lap normally. You could get "Deadline WR" by sitting still and letting the timer run down, which is why I never bothered even doing it. I also suggest banning the reverse trick strategy in Detonator, where you stop before the line and reverse to accelerate. It's against the spirit of the game imo, and I never even attempted optimizing it beyond beating the non-RT WRs 2 years ago. The Canyon trick has started coming into vogue though, so legalizing it is fine by me.

Finally, I really appreciate that you guys are showing genuine interest in rebuilding the community for this game. I love this game with all my heart and it saddened me that no one cared about it here, that's why I kinda gave up a couple months ago. Nevertheless, let's try to bring this game back to its glory days together! :)

I've been wanting to be mod for 2 years, but I haven't wanted to be that guy who asks for mod despite having most of the WRs and site records lol

"Either way there is no video evidence for this run. In my eyes i just cant see it as legit. No matter how trusted they are"

Well, I suppose you don't trust a lot of people then, including myself. That's a shame, as

1. I did it (my runs sucks though)
2. Shock did it (and has more video proof than pretty much anyone on this thread)
3. Several other people apparently lied about their times because you won't trust us.

The time trial community has been around since... whenever SMK came out. The mariokart64.com site has run on a site of trust ever since it has existed, and I see no reason why it should change. On a leaderboard that no one really cares about, where recording is extremely difficult or costly, and essentially a branch from a site based on a trust system, there's no reason to doubt this. I've known Shock for almost 2 years now, and others have known him many years, and there is no shred of evidence to suggest he faked that run. I trust him, and no doubt everyone with a faint connection to MKSC does.

As much as I dislike agreeing with Lafungo, he's right. Recording MKSC live is annoying as hell to try to do, especially for an hour. 99.9% of the MKSC community's action comes from time trials, so who cares that much. I regard full game runs as not that much more than a meme, and I doubt many others in the community would disagree. It may not be 2004, but this is being played on a handheld console that isn't suited for live recording. Emu sucks, VC is useless and slow, a DS and cap card is $125 and up and I can barely use a DS to play, and a ZZMT GBA SP doesn't have many options. A GBA Player drops frames, killing mts, and live recording is incredibly awkward. Also, regarding the "hey I claimed a 49" thing, 1. its impossible without lapskips (banned) and 2. Why on earth would we trust someone who came out of the blue to destroy WR by 10 minutes?

-Hard to record -No one in the community really cares that much about speedruns of the game -Expensive to record in good quality and requires switching consoles for many -GBA Player drops frames and kills MTs -Shock has video for anything else you could dream of, so doubting him is pointless, he's also a living legend -3 people complaining isn't enough to remove a WR by a respected player who can prove themselves 100 times over

tl;dr no

I'm also going to submit every detonator in their categories, so the times from my speedrun of all detonators will go in the track times. I'll try to improve them though

Are runs with music eligible for the leaderboards? Kinda don't want to have to reupload too many more videos lol

There's not really another site for it, but there are many YouTube videos on it. Well, I was the one to discover the Canyon Detonator glitch, so I can confirm it. I also have a couple overall world records with the reverse trick, so I can confirm its real lol. I'll link a video to the reverse trick and canyon glitch. Reverse trick/Canyon glitch: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OcOTdL-KBrc

Canyon detonator has a glitch where you can go through the dam and subtract about 4 seconds. There should be two separate leaderboards for glitched and unglitched.

In Detonator, there is a trick called the "reverse trick" (RT) where one can stop before the start line and the timer doesn't go off. You can reverse and get a better start, usually removing about 2 seconds. There should be different leaderboards for reverse tricked runs.

Just my suggestions. BMF-_Rusty