UruguayOh, good. In that case I am willing to become a verifier. I'm not against glitches. Taxon, the guy who has the WR for most Open Wheel races already uses all the known speed glitches except uncapped FPS. But I don't think at this time there are two people with the same skill level that the FPS difference would actually matter.
Would it possible to add pre-existing videos by people who don't have speedrun.com accounts, like those I linked above? I suppose the answer is no, but just wanted to check.
As for there being potentially hundreds of races, I don't see why you would have to add all of them, and not just the most popular ones requested based on some yet to be determined criteria.
Here are some examples of tracks for which people have already posted their best laps. Sure, GTAO is not mainly about racing. But more people hotlap and post their results in GTA than in many racing games that are solely about racing. As you can see, the WR (of all the times recorded on video at least) for some of the races are very optimized.
Open Wheel - Abridged
Open Wheel - Height of Society
Land Race - Dockyard
If you were to add races as ILs, I'd propose to use the in-game lap time as the timer, since that seems to be what the existing GTAO racing community mainly cares about. This isn't new on this site anyway, the leaderboard for Assetto Corsa already works this way, based on in-game lap times. (https://www.speedrun.com/assetto_corsa/)
The main problem as I see it is most of these people are not speedrunners, and won't bother to create an account on here and submit them rather than just post them on Youtube. If those people's times can't be added without them making an account on here then whatever, don't add the races I guess.
But the argument that the car is all that matters in racing is not a a very valid one when all runs of missions where the Oppressor MkII can be used were made obsolete overnight when that vehicle was released, pretty much regardless of what route they were using before the DLC.
With regards to adding the races of a certain type as a group, then I retract that idea, since I agree nobody would run it and me having the top time just because nobody else bothered would be pretty lame. It was just something I came up with in the moment without thinking it through.
As for there being potentially hundreds of races, I don't see why you would have to add all of them, and not just the most popular ones requested based on some yet to be determined criteria.
Here are some examples of tracks for which people have already posted their best laps. Sure, GTAO is not mainly about racing. But more people hotlap and post their results in GTA than in many racing games that are solely about racing. As you can see, the WR (of all the times recorded on video at least) for some of the races are very optimized.
Open Wheel - Abridged
Open Wheel - Height of Society
Land Race - Dockyard
If you were to add races as ILs, I'd propose to use the in-game lap time as the timer, since that seems to be what the existing GTAO racing community mainly cares about. This isn't new on this site anyway, the leaderboard for Assetto Corsa already works this way, based on in-game lap times. (https://www.speedrun.com/assetto_corsa/)
The main problem as I see it is most of these people are not speedrunners, and won't bother to create an account on here and submit them rather than just post them on Youtube. If those people's times can't be added without them making an account on here then whatever, don't add the races I guess.
But the argument that the car is all that matters in racing is not a a very valid one when all runs of missions where the Oppressor MkII can be used were made obsolete overnight when that vehicle was released, pretty much regardless of what route they were using before the DLC.
With regards to adding the races of a certain type as a group, then I retract that idea, since I agree nobody would run it and me having the top time just because nobody else bothered would be pretty lame. It was just something I came up with in the moment without thinking it through.
Why would you commit to adding the category if I made the run, if you actually wouldn't? I spent 4 hours making the video just because you promised you would add the category if I produced a run. And when I sent you the link you just told me "good, but create this thread to get community feedback first". Which given what you said the day before, kind of implies you would follow on your word unless there was negative feedback, especially on a forum with as little activity as this one.
As for the original survivals being released at the same time that Online, I don't see how that makes any difference. By that logic only the original missions could ever be added to the leaderboard, yet new missions are added all the time. And by that same logic it would be ok to add a category for all the original races that were released with the game just because they are the "OG races" or whatever.
I don't see how some survivals having different mechanics that other survivals matters. Open Wheel races have different mechanics than normal street races, so what? As for it being an emtpy category, I just submitted one, and would have submitted another for whatever the category we finally agreed on was, if any. That's about the same as there are for the category you created for you survivals run, so that's not a good argument either.
There is too many varaibles to the run suggestion itself. The fact that races can be set with different groups of vehicles, custom vehicles, using co-op to boost each other using slipstream, limiting it to single player, etc.
Missions and heists can be done with different weapons, in different weather conditions and time of day (which aren't under control of the player, unlike in races), using different weapons and vehicles (custom vehicles, too), and also using co-op to help each other in a million different ways. Sometimes only possible to complete using co-op with 2, 4, or 8 other people, and up to 32 people per session in freemode heist preps, while races can always be completed solo.
You've mentioned before that people do run some races, but unless you can gather up videos of someone running all races individually. Its not going to happen.
What? Where does this arbitrary requirement come from? Are there videos of someone running all missions individually? And even if I ran all races individually, how do I know you won't change your mind again, and demand some even harder to meet criteria?
Because they're cheated and the top times are always 10 second lap times for every track. There are people already uploading their times on Youtube but I guess that could be said for most games.
Here's my submission for the Open Wheel Series.
I don't know if it's acceptable that the runs become invalid every time new races are released. If it is then that's fine by me, otherwise I guess the category could be called "All Original Open Wheel Races" like the survivals are and only include the first 7 that were originally released.
