PortugalUPDATE !!!
I will be away for the next week (no runs till then) and with no runners having posted yet, is been decided to extend the contest - to now end on August 17th, 2025 (11:59 EST).
This will make up for any time lost earlier in the contest; for solving Hotdog 81 and finalizing the run requirements.
This decision was also made on the basis that some runners are still focused on the Most Wanted Madness tournament taking place.
Trophies (awarded to all participants) will be updated in the next week, to now read "ate All Hotdogs in gta 4" instead of the "80/81" shown in the initial post.
If you have a run or plan to attempt one, I will still be checking back here periodically and reviewing any submissions. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask.
Confirmed Methods for Hotdog 81 -
The BEST method for collecting hotdog 81 (from my experience) is by slamming a heli into the wall just below the vendor, as fast as you can - while at 27 fps. I imagine any low fps value around this should work, some might be better or more consistent than others. Further testing required.
https://www.twitch.tv/wewili/clip/YawningUnusualWalrusPeanutButterJellyTime-HngBxrydADWThtlM
The next best, but less reliable strategy is to approach the vendor (on nrg) as fast as you can, around the 27 fps. I'm still trying to find a more reliable bike strategy, as this only works approx 25% of the time. It is still worth attempting 1-2 times though (or until cops overwhelm the area) before moving on and trying a heli attempt later, as it can save a decent amount of time in the run.
https://www.twitch.tv/wewili/clip/RealCarelessPartridgeStrawBeary-vdD27ctrC0cLf3vQ
The last method here is not reliable at all. I only managed to make it work 1 time out of maybe 20-30 tries. Maybe it could be used as a last ditch effort to nail down this dog, but it would probably be a lot safer to just drive back to Alderney for another heli. Cars still require testing. A better boat method would allow this dog to be grabbed after Happy Island to end the run, possibly improving the route.
https://www.twitch.tv/wewili/clip/CharmingRealArmadilloOpieOP-xLJKRjQtd3mkWlsC
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Updated Map with "Optimal" Route -
There's probably a few quicker roads to take, but this considers cop manipulation in some places too... The heli route (purple) changes if you manage to get hotdog 81 while on the nrg; after south Alderney (the "Noel" hotdog) just go directly to Happy Island instead.
Good luck and remember to have fun!
PLEASE NOTE - ONE OF THE RULES HAS BEEN UPDATED - along with one of the bounties too... READ THE FIRST POST!!!
This has been a very busy day in the world of gta 4 hotdog speedruns. Not only that, but all the madness from the mw tournament is not slowing down one bit. Today we have achieved what appears to be.. the first - All Hotdogs run in gta 4. (OMFG)
It is unfortunate, I fat fingered a split and missed a hotdog in south Algonquin during this attempt, but eventually got all 81 hotdogs. 11min22s has been retimed and added to the end of the run. (I used to collect this hotdog on the way down to castle gardens, but routes since improved.. oh well..)
At approx. 47:55 on the video is where the current heli strategy for "hotdog 81" is used. Plenty of time save yet to be found, especially here by sticking the landing first try and collecting that tricky dog. I would suggest practicing this part before attempt a run.
Alternatively... the other known strategy for this notorious glizzy doesn't appear to be any easier, as it relies on similar mechanics used in taxi/void warps.
There's still 2 sweet bounties yet to be claimed, so don't shy away from submitting those runs. It's already been reported some runners are practicing for some decent times... Once some runs start to get submitted, I'll update the thread with a chart or "leaderboard" as well.
Thank you and gta 4
Zazaza691 has been awarded the very special "12 inch" glizzy - for his hard earned efforts in confirming the total number of All Hotdogs in gta 4. #real
Confirmed -- KyleDoesIt has found a way to collect the 81st hotdog. He is the first to submit proof of buying one, claiming the $20 bounty.
This major news has blown things wide open as to how we should handle this vendor moving forward.
With this discovery we have seen that the hotdog stand is somehow getting bugged in the ground when normally spawning in. Kyle did further analysis (with trainer) to also confirm that the trigger for the vendor falls under the ground once the vendor pops up. By spawning and popping up the hotdog stand first (without the vendor) and standing close enough to it, there is enough time to trigger the purchase after spawning in the vendor.
Thank you for the insight on this. Having reviewed how 69/70 Stunt Jumps works out I believe you're right and the broken hotdog vendor should at least be visited. This will also eliminate the need for a separate category if this vendor is one day solved or working. Thus, I am proposing the rule be read as follows:
- Runner is required to either melee or throw an item to hit the broken hotdog vendor.
This will require the runner to get off the bike and actually interact with the vendor in some way, rather than simply shooting or running them over. Allowing for a similar interaction to the other locations. Those who disagree or have any other suggestions, please chime in.
This is incredible discovery! Thank you Zazaza691 for putting in the time and effort to confirm this for us. You will be rewarded well with a special made hotdog trophy. Unfortunately though, the bounty for discovering a new hotdog vendor can no longer be collected.
After a couple attempts last night, I noticed there is a cop spawning (with assault rifle) very close to the broken vendor. I'm starting to suspect that this might have something to do with the vendor not spawning in or working properly. Or is possibly getting locked in a state of panic, similar to how taxi drivers get spooked and can't be hailed anymore.
Some possible things to still test:
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Varying view distance setting.
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Take out the cop, leave area and come back to try respawn vendor.
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See if vendor is working without the 6 star wanted level, on Algonquin unlocked save.
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Waiting. Just wait it out and see if the vendor is set on some sort of timer.
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Benchmark save or ng+, I don't think this has been tested at all yet.
There's probably other things we can still try, but this what comes to mind. If no solution can be found by the end of the month, we can discuss the rule around this vendor then. There is also other vendor stands (burgers/nuts) around the map that never have a server, so we could consider this broken vendor to be like those.
UPDATE - Please post your run in this thread. You may also highlight it on your channel and send me a link, whatever works best for you.
The vendor is located in the south-western part of Algonquin, near the boat docks. It is the only yellow dot on the map I've made.
The vendor just doesn't work. He spawns in with the hotdog stand but is usually facing away from the stand and cant be interacted with in anyway. Since a hotdog can't be purchased from this vendor, I don't think this one should be required to complete the run. So we thought it would be a good joke to still consider it similar to 69/70 stunt jumps in SA.
This is the ONLY vendor we have found to behave this way. We've tried both versions of the game, we've tried tlad & tbogt, we've tried varying fps values, but have yet to find a proper fix for the 81st hotdog guy.
2025 All Hotdogs Contest (posted July 4th, 2025)
As some of you might know, I've been working out the kinks for an official - All Hotdogs run/category in gta 4. The only reasonable map I could find had several (like 20+) missing vendors. We have confirmed (on July 5th, 2025) that all of the hotdog vendors have been found. The vendor with yellow dot (shown on the map below) is known as "Hotdog 81", once thought to be impossible, the vendor was surely broken. Thankfully, on July 7th, 2025, we confirmed that it is possible to make this 6star purchase.
Having completed a handful of runs already and develop a route, it's a lot of fun and I believe it should be worthy of a category here. A map with an updated route can be provided if anyone asks.
Rules: Timer starts on first frame of the game, just like any other category. Timer ends when "-$5" is shown for the last hotdog vendor. A hotdog must be purchased from each vendor for 81 in total.
In order to work out any remaining flaws and potentially start on a leaderboard, here is what I'm considering/proposing.
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UPDATED - $10usd offered to the first runner who can submit a completed run.
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NO LONGER AVAILABLE - $10usd offered to any runner(s) who find a missing hotdog vendor, $10 per vendor found.
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NO LONGER AVAILABLE - $20usd offered to any runner who can solve (buy a hotdog from) the broken hotdog vendor.
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$30usd offered to the runner with the fastest time by the end of the contest - August 17th, 2025 (11:59 EST).
All runners who complete a run will receive a very limited and custom made trophy (image only, not a physical trophy) for taking part in the contest.
BREAKING NEWS - There is now an Autosplitter for All Hotdogs, made by AssaultKifle47. Thank you for figuring this out as this is a major improvement for runners and a big step toward making this a category. This link should immediately start a download for the LiveSplit file, or it can be found in the GTA Speedrunning discord.
It appears to work without any issues, but will split if a vendor is repeated. There is also a stat in the game menu (under Misc) that can help confirm if all 81 hotdogs were eaten. Manual review will likely be required (mostly for wr runs) to confirm no vendors were repeated or missed.
Please post your run in this thread. You may also highlight it on your channel and send me a link, whatever works best for you.
If you have any suggestions that could improve the run, is appreciated. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks and gta 4
"These dogs is hot, come and eat them." -Kyle
