I have been playing this game for many years and I have noticed some strange things. Why can I never beat my time? Am I having bad RNG? or is it the emulator itself?

The run I did some years ago I was using another version of the ePSXe emulator, when I switched I realized some strange things that I will show you now. Remembering that I have already done in the guide https://www.speedrun.com/bust_a_groove_2/guide/v4sj0 showing only the music times in the training part and gave an update analyzing the times in the middle of the gameplay.

With a deep analysis I used some runs as a base and played several versions of emulators and caught several RNGs and also I was wondering why the other runners can not beat the WR being that he got the same RNG of the record holder.

After playing so much I decided to share these loadings tests of some emulators/old versions. Maybe these can't be the same loadings as your emulator because of my configuration, but it is interesting to know that the comparisons are quite different. #Emulator settings EMU ePSXe X.Y.Z and more emulators and consoles - PS1 settings

Analyzed Runs: RNG 1 WR:

RNG 2:

RNG 3:

RNG 4:

Console/Emulators - Times

In some versions the music has delays, which makes it difficult to do the commands and has a lot of delay. So I will discard some versions.

ePSXe v1.5.2 - 0:06.900 (music without syncrony)
ePSXe v1.6.0 - 0:07.250 (music without syncrony)
pSXfin v1.13 - 0:08.050
ePSXe v1.7.0 - 0:08.100
PSXjin v2.0.2 - 0:08.350
ePSXe v1.9.25 - 0:08.400
ePSXe v1.9.0 - 0:08.750
ePSXe v1.8.0 - 0:08.800
Duckstation - 0:09.550
ePSXe v2.0.0 - 0:10.250
ePSXe v2.0.5 - 0:10.250

PS1 console - ?
PS2 console - ?
ePSXe v1.0.1 - No read disc
ePSXe v1.2.0 - No read disc
ePSXe v1.5.0 - bad (music without syncrony)

Videos: Bust a Groove 2 - Loadings comparison (PS1 emulators) #1

Bust a Groove 2 - Loadings comparison (PS1 emulators) #2

Bust a Groove 2 - Loadings comparison (PS1 emulators) #3

I also noticed a certain delay when you finish a song, when the option "You Win!" appears in which the character has an animation you wait for more time, I don't know if this depends on the character, but I noticed this delay analyzing the first place run with mine. And I realized that this is not only in the beginning, but in all the phase selections there is this delay when the music starts and that is why I can't beat my time.

I selected a frame before the loading screen appeared as shown in the images:

Bust a Groove 2 - Loadings comparison (Full run) #4 *Any% - ( Emulator ) in 24m 21s by lokisanchez - 1st place - https://www.speedrun.com/bust_a_groove_2/run/ydw91pvm *

BAG2 - 24:53 WR [EMU ePSXe 2.0.0] -

#Animations 06/Dec/2022

I did another analysis regarding the animations the characters do when they win. This will vary depending on which emulator/console you are playing.

Each character has three animations, some speak and some don't and depending on the music it ends faster as the score/HUD also disappears faster, the ones that save more time is Capoeira that doesn't speak at all, just short animations, Comet doesn't speak, just a little voice in an animation where she serves food, and the one that speaks the least is Tsutomu.

I used this run as a base (EMU Duckstation): https://www.speedrun.com/bust_a_groove_2/run/meev22qm 100% - ( Emulator ) in 4h 12m 41s by DehBR - 1st place -

Each time analyzed in various ways, so pay close attention to the time.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmI_nx2XTE1G_dK6TsLw6jb01b5duNRYZ

Phase (Striker):

Phase (Comet):

Each character: - - - - - - - - - -

All the characters together: - - - -

#Conclusion All runners can beat the same time with this RNG from the first image, unless I find out something new; There are very specific sequences, it is not 100% random (in total there are 4 sequences) and that the best version for you to be playing this game is pSXfin v1.13; And for a 100% run playing on pSXfin v1.13 you can save a lot of time 1 or 2 minutes out there (without losing any matches or basic errors).

Bust a Groove 1 - Loadings Comparison https://www.speedrun.com/bust_a_groove/thread/h3udy/1#ppf0p

#RNG Times (EMU: pSXfin v1.13) 12/Dec/2022

Any% 1° 24:15 https://www.speedrun.com/bust_a_groove_2/run/y80qn3nm 2° 24:21 https://www.speedrun.com/bust_a_groove_2/run/z1q364ry 3° 24:22 - 4° 24:33 -

100% (theoretically) 1° 4:02:30 2° 4:03:30 3° 4:03:40 4° 4:05:30

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Interessante, poderia fazer uma comparação analisando outras runs com celulares diferentes pra eu ter uma noção. Se for uma boa analise, pode adquirir essa ideia de "Tempo sem Loads".

Não vejo a necessidade de adicionar tempo de loads e sem, porque o jogo não é pay to win. Mesmo que tenha um celular velho tu pode bater o tempo de boas.

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This forum is made for asking questions or doubts regarding the game or leaderboard rules okay Be more careful about fake links (spam/flood) or personal information in your account. Just create another account and tell them you are the user that was hacked and that's it.

he didn't specify what he wanted, but it's much better to talk to the community on discord as they are more active than in the forums. https://discord.gg/jxFTc8kzQb

There is no need to have more moderators for the time being.

here this https://discord.gg/jxFTc8kzQb

Hello to the Metal Slug moderators, I wanted to add a new game that is actually a fangame of the game called "Metal Slug: Last Mission" that is quite old in flash games, quite challenging and difficult for advanced difficulty and also quite short.

I requested the game to the moderators of speedrun. com but it was rejected and they gave me the reason which was:

"Your game request of Metal Slug: Last Mission has been rejected. Reason: Please contact the Metal Slug series moderators about this".

So can you add it? If you refuse it is fine, I understand. If it is accepted and collaborate this here the data:

Game Types: Fangame, Webgame Base Game: Metal Slug

Game information: https://www.minijogos.com.br/jogo/metal-slug-last-mission

Link to user’s own run:

Additional Notes by the User: There is no wikipedia for the game, it is several sites to play via flash player.

Prototype%

After playing so much I decided to share these loadings tests of some emulators/old versions. Maybe these can't be the same loadings as your emulator because of my configuration, but it is interesting to know that the comparisons are quite different.

EMU ePSXe X.Y.Z and more emulators and consoles - PS1 settings

Analyzed Runs: Any% in 42m 10s by PlayerGameSK (Obsoleto) (FDS) PlayStation 2 [USA] on 2022-06-18 https://www.speedrun.com/atle/run/y60qrd6y

All Levels in 1h 37m 28s by Baconman12 - 2nd place PlayStation Vita [EUR] on 2022-03-11 https://www.speedrun.com/atle/run/yle24e3z

100% in 1h 26m 15s by WagnerBrasil - 2nd place PlayStation [USA] ᴇᴍᴜ on 2020-05-07 https://www.speedrun.com/atle/run/yok3gk5z

Times EMU:

• 1 second transition
• Start: play new game
• Ends: 11 Speaks

First Segment

Second Segment

##Video: The video is quite long, because I put all the versions I examined

• 1 second transition

ePSXe v1.7.0 - OK
ePSXe v1.8.0 - OK
ePSXe v1.9.0 - OK
ePSXe v1.9.25 - OK
ePSXe v2.0.0 - OK
3:06 minutes difference - all levels, all loading screens.

ePSXe v2.0.5 - OK

pSXfin v1.13 - OK
2:52 minutes difference - all levels, all loading screens.

Duckstation - OK
PSXjin v2.0.2 - OK
PS2 console - OK (Fast Disk Speed)
PS2 console - OK
PS1 console - OK
ePSXe v1.0.0 - N/A (the game did not run in this version)
ePSXe v1.0.1 - N/A (the game did not run in this version)
ePSXe v1.2.0 - N/A (the game did not run in this version)
ePSXe v1.5.0 - N/A (the game did not run in this version)
ePSXe v1.5.2 - OK (bug no sounds/different sounds)
ePSXe v1.6.0 - OK (bug no sounds/different sounds)
Mednaffe - N/A (I couldn't run the game, because my notebook is not powerful)
BizHawk - N/A (I couldn't run the game, because my notebook is not powerful)

Fixed.

You have two identical runs with the wrong time, it has been reanalyzed, corrected, and the previous duplicate run has been removed.

Use Laser Tweak to choose the color you want, unlike the steam version that is only to change a notepad in the game folder. But I recommend not changing it so as not to cause a bad impression on the viewer who is watching your run, seeing the game in a different way.

• Let's see what the moderators think about it, if it's ok like the steam version.

Fixed: https://www.speedrun.com/speedjump/news/2275

• Calm down, first when I was not Mod of this game did not have well elaborated rules and categories;
• The game already had old versions and they were left in the obsolete filters, then who played in old versions was more "advantageous", some maps were different until the version 1.3.0 that added a new phase;
• However this, for some unknown reason and also problem in speedrun.com is that these obsolete versions stay in the leaderboard even though I put the versions as obsolete and they are forbidden to run;
• You noticed something that I already noticed, but I was ignoring how you have this problem, I will fix it ok.

Thanking the site moderation for adding me as a Super Mod on this leaderboard for my request, so for the new runners don't worry that your runs will be analyzed with no problem of inactivity.

Please, for the old moderator who does not feel uncomfortable with these changes, I will not do any harm, joke or harm the game leaderboard anymore, I will just take responsibility.

• Rules updates;

• Themes added;

• New speedrun logo added;

• Some runs were retroactively rejected as having no video evidence;

• PC and Console versions were separated as subcategories because they have major differences in gameplay;

• Comments will no longer be allowed in runs;

• Runs reanalyzed;

• Runs moved to their respective platform;

• Download the game complete (PC) added;

• Fixes/Patches added;

• New categories created: ▶ New Game - No OoB NG+ - No OoB

• Individual Levels added ▶ Individual Levels ✔ Any% OoB and Any% No OoB

Thank you.

It is an interesting category, Glitchless already exists, it is in the extension categories https://www.speedrun.com/re4ce#Glitchless If you have already made such a run, ask the moderators on their discord server.

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