Oh, maybe. I figured he did the First Moon Barrier Skip and somehow managed to get trigger the Madam Broodal fight.
I was under the impression that Pyorin managed to trigger the Madam Broodal bossfight prior to getting the first moon. Maybe I'm misreading something.
This is really interesting! Great find! Going to tinker with it more myself. Any advice?
Just to update the forums a bit, clips have been discovered using the Roll Cancel in Cascade Kingdom. Allows for the first moon to be obtained with no captures whatsoever.
The boss loads once you get the First Moon. I demonstrate this in the vid. However ideally we might be able to clip into one of the bonus rooms with Rex. If we can hit 5 Moons we may be able to skip her entirely. It's a long shot though.
This particular route will be better for exhibition as it's far less likely to result in a reset. You're likely right, that it isn't faster than the Fossil Skip, but I'll have to test the timing. This route skips an unskippable cutscene wherein Cappy explains fueling the Odyssey and that could mean something.
1080p isn't up as of the time of this post.
Just a quick / tired demonstration of the skip and how we can use Rex to optimize the Minimal Capture Route.
Sorry, yeah I've come around to that conclusion too. I'm counting them from now on. ^_^
Also uploading a quick video I just recorded regarding a potential new route for Cascade.
I've rerouted the Cascade Kingdom and eliminated a capture. Hear me out.
You can skip the first power moon. I'll link my tweet below.
So skip the first moon. Get the Rex. Use Rex to break the cave with the power moon. Use Rex to break the 2D wall. Use Rex to break "Our First Power Moon".
This eliminates both the first and second Chain Chomps. It also gives us access to two power moons we normally wouldn't have in this run, thus making our exit a little quicker too.
Yeah, the Luncheon Kingdom scared me when I first routed it. Was concerned there wasn't going to be enough Moons prior to the Hammer Bro. Event Moon.
Of these feats, the Cascade Skip is the one I can't get even remotely down. It's like ten tries plus each time. lol
EDIT: And AteBallEight, that's a very good route summary.
Thanks for the heads up. Been spending time in Discord discussing it.
I suppose if this is the case, and should I convert this thread to be about Low% runs since there doesn't seem to be anything to that effect in this forum?
I appreciate the reply. Whether it's added or not isn't really something I'm personally all that fussed over. More interested in labbing it and getting opinions. ^_^
I looked over this forum and really saw nothing regarding it. It seems like a no brainer though and I've been labbing it rather extensively. I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on this.
So far in my experience, Minimal Capture Runs provide more interesting routes and obviously more technical jumps. My viewers have also gone from being done with watching Odyssey streams to actively requesting labbing sessions of these runs.
I'm currently running with these in mind.
~ Minimal Captures ~ Only counts for Capturing NPCs. (scarcrows, switches, powerlines don't count) ~ Bosses only count as one capture. (see Madam Broodal)
Currently I've managed to complete a run with just five captures with a (unofficial time) of 1:33:35. This was during a labbing run so far from what is actually possible obviously.
Currently the following Kingdoms are completable without captures:
Cap Sand Lake Wooded Cloud Lost Snow Seaside Luncheon Ruined
Cascade requires the first moon Chain Chomp & Madam Broodal.
Metro Kingdom requires a Sherm capture for the Mecha Wriggler.
Bowser Kingom requires a Pokio for scaling the rotating wall.
Moon requires the Bowser capture.
Any idea in terms of routes? Obviously many of the typical Any% routes are good launching points, but each need some rerouting.